[parisc-linux] build success

[parisc-linux] build success

[Tor Arntsen]

Alex deVries mailed me and said he used the default configs, so I just
pressed return to all make config questions and hey presto it compiled
(except for one thing, coming back to that).

Cross-compiling environment: SGI Octane, irix 6.5, self-built cross compiler
and binutils (from CVS), linux kernel from cvs.

One little thing failed for me (people are obviously cross-compiling on
Linux in general, I guess).  There is no /bin/bash on SGI, it mostly lives
in /usr/freeware/bin.  The following patch fixed it for me (typical Perl
portability hack):

------
Index: arch/parisc/hp//boot/boot_tools/createheader.sh
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/cvs/parisc/linux/arch/parisc/hp/boot/boot_tools/createheader.sh,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 createheader.sh
--- createheader.sh	1999/06/09 18:28:04	1.1
+++ createheader.sh	1999/06/09 21:20:20
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/bin/bash
+#!/usr/bin/env bash
 
 # This is a script that creates a header given the 
 # ipl and vmlinux file locations.
------

-Tor

[parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Alan Cox]

Well I have the HP a hub and some cabling. The web console works great (cute
hack) and it understands my subnetting although it came shipped on an 
IP address belonging to RIPE not HP or RFC1597 (duh)

I can't however get HP/UX to set up an interface 

	194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224

which I really need to do. Also before I go and build all the sane tools
so the box is usable has anyone already built a big tar file of HP/UX binaries
of gcc/bash/fileutils etc ?

Alan

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[xomina]

On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Alan Cox wrote:

> which I really need to do. Also before I go and build all the sane tools
> so the box is usable has anyone already built a big tar file of HP/UX binaries
> of gcc/bash/fileutils etc ?

here's the gnu directory taken from my HP-UX 10.20 machine at work.  it
includes the info/, man/, include/, etc directories, so let me know if
you'd prefer just bin/.  it's 11.5 MB gzipped right now.  and go easy, i
put it on my lowly P120 Debian machine... 8)

http://209.181.241.33/~oig/gnu.tar.gz

ryan

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[John David Anglin]

> 
> 
> On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > which I really need to do. Also before I go and build all the sane tools
> > so the box is usable has anyone already built a big tar file of HP/UX binaries
> > of gcc/bash/fileutils etc ?
> 
> here's the gnu directory taken from my HP-UX 10.20 machine at work.  it
> includes the info/, man/, include/, etc directories, so let me know if
> you'd prefer just bin/.  it's 11.5 MB gzipped right now.  and go easy, i
> put it on my lowly P120 Debian machine... 8)

Are they static so that they will work without shared libraries?

-- 
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National Research Council of Canada              (613) 990-0752 (FAX: 952-6605)

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[xomina]

On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, John David Anglin wrote:

> > here's the gnu directory taken from my HP-UX 10.20 machine at work.  it
> 
> Are they static so that they will work without shared libraries?

oops, no, they appear to be dynamic.  at least, i assume that's what this
means:

mercury:/usr/local/gnu/bin> chatr bash
bash: 
         shared executable 
         shared library dynamic path search:
             SHLIB_PATH     disabled  second 
             embedded path  disabled  first  Not Defined
         internal name:
             bash
         shared library list:
             dynamic   /usr/lib/libc.1
         shared library binding:
             deferred 
         static branch prediction disabled
         data page size: 4K
         instruction page size: 4K
mercury:/usr/local/gnu/bin> 

sorry, i didn't install them on this machine, and wasn't aware they
weren't statically-linked.  comes from being a non-kernel programmer and
being a bit hasty to find something i could possibly help out with, i
suppose!

ryan

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Alan Cox]

> here's the gnu directory taken from my HP-UX 10.20 machine at work.  it
> includes the info/, man/, include/, etc directories, so let me know if
> you'd prefer just bin/.  it's 11.5 MB gzipped right now.  and go easy, i
> put it on my lowly P120 Debian machine... 8)
> 
> http://209.181.241.33/~oig/gnu.tar.gz

Grabbing. You win an official hero point 

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Erik Paulson]

> 
> Well I have the HP a hub and some cabling. The web console works great (cute
> hack) and it understands my subnetting although it came shipped on an 
> IP address belonging to RIPE not HP or RFC1597 (duh)
> 
> I can't however get HP/UX to set up an interface 
> 
> 	194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224
> 
> which I really need to do. Also before I go and build all the sane tools
> so the box is usable has anyone already built a big tar file of HP/UX binaries
> of gcc/bash/fileutils etc ?

There's alot of stuff on the HP-UX Porting center; we've got a mirror here
at hpux.cae.wisc.edu, there's also a UK one at http://hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk

-Erik

> 
> Alan
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Matt Taggart]

Alan Cox writes...

 >I can't however get HP/UX to set up an interface 
 >
 >	194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224

Are you getting errors or do you just need to know where to make changes? 
If it's the former, post the errors and maybe someone can help. If its the 
latter, you probably want to edit /etc/rc.config.d/netconf

 >which I really need to do. Also before I go and build all the sane tools
 >so the box is usable has anyone already built a big tar file of HP/UX 
binaries
 >of gcc/bash/fileutils etc ?

I think it would be nice for all the developers to be sync'ed up and using 
the latest tools. Right?

Does it make sense to go one step further and package them in either HP's 
SD depot format or alternatively RPM(and provide RPM on HP-UX)? I have some 
SD experience and could automate the packaging if needed.

Another, somewhat larger, option would be to produce a custom HP-UX image 
for the people working on the port. We can slap that image on bootable CDs 
for distribution. Rebuilding a system from one of these CD's only takes 
about 20 minutes. The image could be rebuilt fairly easily if it needed to 
be updated.  I can also help with this if needed.

What does everyone think?

Thanks,

--
Matt Taggart       Technical Consulting Lab
taggart@fc.hp.com  Workstation Systems Division
Ft Collins, CO     Hewlett Packard

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Alan Cox]

>  >I can't however get HP/UX to set up an interface 
>  >
>  >	194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224
> 
> Are you getting errors or do you just need to know where to make changes? 
> If it's the former, post the errors and maybe someone can help. If its the 
> latter, you probably want to edit /etc/rc.config.d/netconf

Umm webconsole doesnt support cut/paste

ifconfig lan0 194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCSIFNETMASK): bad value

Which is kind of a problem

> for distribution. Rebuilding a system from one of these CD's only takes 
> about 20 minutes. The image could be rebuilt fairly easily if it needed to 
> be updated.  I can also help with this if needed.
> 
> What does everyone think?

A set of GNU tools for HP/UX in a easy format is probably going to make many
HP/UX users happy too - SCO has the "skunkware" CD which is basically a 
GNU brain transplant or SCO and is a similar idea.

Alan

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Piotr Strzy¿ewski]

Alan Cox wrote:
> >  >I can't however get HP/UX to set up an interface 
> >  >
> >  >	194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224
> > 
> > Are you getting errors or do you just need to know where to make changes? 
> > If it's the former, post the errors and maybe someone can help. If its the 
> > latter, you probably want to edit /etc/rc.config.d/netconf
> 
> Umm webconsole doesnt support cut/paste
> 
> ifconfig lan0 194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224
> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCSIFNETMASK): bad value
> 
> Which is kind of a problem

Alan - this is from man ifconfig on HP-UX 10.20:

   Supernets
     A supernet is a collection of smaller networks.  Supernetting is a
     technique of using the netmask to aggregate a collection of smaller
     networks into a supernet. This technique is particularly useful for
     class C networks.  A Class C network can only have 254 hosts.  This
     can be too restrictive for some companies.  For these companies, a
     netmask that only contains a portion of the network part can be
     applied to the hosts in these class C networks to form a supernet.
     This supernet netmask should be applied to those interfaces that
     connect to the supernet using the ifconfig command.  For example, a
     host can configure its interface to connect to a class C supernet,
     192.6, by configuring an IP address of 192.6.1.1 and a netmask of
     255.255.0.0 to its interface.

And this is the example on HP-UX 10.20:

# ifconfig lan0 191.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.224
# ifconfig lan0
lan0: flags=862<BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST>
        inet 191.1.1.1 netmask ffffffe0 broadcast 191.1.1.31
# ifconfig lan0 192.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.224
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCSIFADDR): Can't assign requested address
# ifconfig lan0 192.1.1.1
# ifconfig lan0
lan0: flags=862<BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST>
        inet 192.1.1.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.1.1.255

I can only say - 'This is HP :-)'. Their ideas are sometimes strange for
me. :-).

gucio

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E-mail: gucio@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl

Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Steven Pritchard]

Matt Taggart said:
> Does it make sense to go one step further and package them in either HP's 
> SD depot format or alternatively RPM(and provide RPM on HP-UX)? I have some 
> SD experience and could automate the packaging if needed.

Just for reference, the samba 2.0.x source has packaging scripts for
HP-UX.  I figured out how to build HP-UX packages from that example.
(It's pretty easy, although when you get done, building the package
isn't as simple as "rpm -ba" or "rpm --rebuild".)

Steve
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Re: [parisc-linux] Trying to get HP-UX working

[Fredrik Soderblom]

On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Alan Cox wrote:

> I can't however get HP/UX to set up an interface 
> 
> 	194.168.151.23 netmask 255.255.255.224

You'll need to tell it to allow for subnet zero (RFC1878)

on pre 11.x:

# nettune -s ip_check_subnet_addr 0

on 11.x:

# ndd -set /dev/ip ip_check_subnet_addr 0

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Re: [parisc-linux] build success

[Alex deVries]

Tor Arntsen wrote:
> 
> Alex deVries mailed me and said he used the default configs, so I just
> pressed return to all make config questions and hey presto it compiled
> (except for one thing, coming back to that).


Ack.  I'm having problems hitting 'reply all'.

> -#!/bin/bash
> +#!/usr/bin/env bash

I've changed this to /bin/sh, and that's committed now.

- Alex