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From: willy@thepuffingroup.com
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@cup.hp.com>
Cc: huck@cup.hp.com, parisc-linux@thepuffingroup.com
Subject: [parisc-linux] uncacheable memory
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:29:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000305092901.E9944@thepuffingroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200003050549.VAA03562@milano.cup.hp.com>; from Grant Grundler on Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 09:49:49PM -0800

On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 09:49:49PM -0800, Grant Grundler wrote:
> HP systems have three I/O MMU's which are I/O coherent: U2/Uturn,
> Astro/Ike, and Epic/SAGA.  AFAIK, all systems using one on them have
> the processor(s) connected to a "Runway" bus.  This limits what
> processor model those systems can have: PA-7200, -8000, -8200, or -8500.
> 
> (Caveats:
>  - T-class has something similar to U2 which is NOT I/O coherent

According to the hwdb, the T600 has two `Java BC Summit Port (IOA)'.
And you're the only one in possession of a T-class :-).  All the devices
in the T600 seem to be special devices so the drivers would have to
be freshly written anyway.  I don't see a PCI adapter in the T-class,
can one be fitted?  I assume Summit is the name of a bus, like Runway
only different?

> In personal conversations, two knowledgable folks have suggested
> the following:
> o PA-7100LC systems support uncacheable memory and subcacheline access.
>   So these boxes should be supportable.

that's good, that's a fair chunk of those machines which people have (712,
725/100, 715/later, E-class, early D-class).

> o PA-7300LC systems *might* support uncacheable memory and subcacheline...
>   (Could anyone definitively answer this for any PA-7300LC box?)

According to the 7300LC ERS, section 1.1.2 (Integrated Caches and TLB)
`Uncached memory pages are supported via the TLB U-bit.'  Then section
1.2.2, (Differences from the PA7100LC) `Uncacheable pages are still
supported.  Note: PA7100LC did not require the U bit to be set on TLB
entries for I/O pages, but the PA7300LC does (this was always an
architural requirement).'

I think that's enough for us to go on.

> o PA-7000 systems are pretty much SOL.
>   (But they could be perfectly useful if folks add cache flushing to
>    the few device drivers needed for graphics and stuff off of LASI.)

how about PA7100/7150 systems?  (715/early, 735, 755, later Nova servers)
They will also need explicit cache flushing added, I guess.

  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-05 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-02 20:42 [parisc-linux] lasi scsi driver Gyula Matics
2000-03-02 21:19 ` Grant Grundler
2000-03-02 21:44   ` Gyula Matics
2000-03-03  0:50     ` [parisc-linux] Lasi Ethernet - update Helge Deller
2000-03-03  2:55       ` Bdale Garbee
2000-03-03 13:14         ` [parisc-linux] Lasi Ethernet - update (fixed!) Helge Deller
2000-03-03  1:34     ` [parisc-linux] lasi scsi driver Helge Deller
2000-03-03 15:52   ` willy
2000-03-03 19:10 ` Jerry Huck
2000-03-04 19:49   ` willy
2000-03-05  5:49     ` Grant Grundler
2000-03-05 14:29       ` willy [this message]
2000-03-05 15:57         ` [parisc-linux] uncacheable memory (D370) rob hoppe
2000-03-05 16:05           ` willy
2000-03-06  6:26         ` uncacheable memory Grant Grundler
2000-03-05 18:34       ` [parisc-linux] lasi scsi driver Philipp Rumpf
2000-03-05 18:46   ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-03-05 21:05     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2000-03-07 19:33     ` Jerry Huck
2000-03-07 23:45       ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-03-08  0:33         ` Grant Grundler

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