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From: LaMont Jones <lamont@hp.com>
To: Philippe Benard <phi@hpfrcu03.france.hp.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, LaMont Jones <lamont@hp.com>,
	Stan Sieler <sieler@allegro.com>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Jes Sorensen <jes@linuxcare.com>,
	Alan Modra <alan@linuxcare.com.au>,
	John Marvin <jsm@udlkern.fc.hp.com>,
	parisc-linux@thepuffingroup.com, lamont@hp.com
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] ldcw in __pthread_acquire
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 07:40:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001218144036.5BE0B1872C@security.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:27:43 +0100." <3A3E02BF.DC1D0EB5@hpfrcu03.france.hp.com>

> I think LaMont Jones meant that the spinlock loop (in user space AND in kerne
> space) must implement a load word loop, and issue a load-and-clear word only
> when the lock word looks 'free', this is because the 'write' part of the
> load-and-clear word issue a cache broadcast transaction on the bus, so the
> loop should be on load-word followed by load-clear-word when it looks free,

That was one of the first solutions tried in HP-UX, and it resulted in
processor 4 not getting any time (3 wasn't much better), due to the way
that bus arbitration works (it favors one end of the bus.)

The current semaphore operations in the HP-UX kernel do not use ldcw: they
use stb and ldw in some interesting orders (which break when we get weak
ordering with IA64, but then we'll have a low-cost test-and-set.)

lamont

  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-18 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-15 10:12 [parisc-linux] ldcw in __pthread_acquire John Marvin
2000-12-15 11:37 ` Alan Modra
2000-12-15 16:37   ` Matthew Wilcox
2000-12-15 17:32     ` Jes Sorensen
2000-12-16 19:29       ` Matthew Wilcox
2000-12-16 21:58         ` Jes Sorensen
2000-12-17  4:31           ` Alan Modra
2000-12-17  1:22         ` Stan Sieler
2000-12-17  2:38           ` Alan Cox
2000-12-17  4:18             ` LaMont Jones
2000-12-18  0:29             ` Stan Sieler
2000-12-18  0:36               ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18  0:48                 ` Stan Sieler
2000-12-18  0:59                   ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18  4:43                     ` LaMont Jones
2000-12-18 11:53                       ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18 12:27                         ` Philippe Benard
2000-12-18 14:40                           ` LaMont Jones [this message]
2000-12-18 19:44                             ` Stan Sieler
2000-12-18 19:54                               ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18 20:15                                 ` Stan Sieler
2000-12-18 20:44                                 ` LaMont Jones
2000-12-18 21:56                                   ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18 22:26                               ` LaMont Jones
2000-12-18  7:10                 ` Philippe Benard
2000-12-18 12:06                   ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18 14:49                     ` LaMont Jones
2000-12-18 15:59                       ` Matthew Wilcox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-15 10:26 John Marvin

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