[parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[Matthew van de Werken]

Hi folks:

I have a 735/99, onto which I'd like to install hppa-linux. However, I don't
have any of the usual methods of installing software (I have no bootable
CD-ROM, no tape, no network (without linux - chicken and egg problem).

Hwever, I *do* have a SCSI disk and a linux-x86 box onto which I can mount
this disk temporarily. What I'd like to be able to do is to dump a disk
image onto this disk, then transfer it to the 735, and boot from there. Is
this possible? Is there a disk image somewhere I can use for this?

Alternatively, can I build a bootable disk manually on the SCSI disk from
the x86 box? If I do this, what do I need to do? I tried to do the
instructions on the "Installing PA-RISC Linux" page, however I couldn't
mount the "f0" type partition (for obvious reasons), even if I had known
what to put there once I had.

Any help greatly appreciated at this stage,

Cheers,
Matt van de Werken.

Re: [parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[Andrew Shugg]

Matthew van de Werken said:
> I have a 735/99, onto which I'd like to install hppa-linux. However, I don't
> have any of the usual methods of installing software (I have no bootable
> CD-ROM, no tape, no network (without linux - chicken and egg problem).
> 
> Hwever, I *do* have a SCSI disk and a linux-x86 box onto which I can mount
> this disk temporarily. What I'd like to be able to do is to dump a disk
> image onto this disk, then transfer it to the 735, and boot from there. Is
> this possible? Is there a disk image somewhere I can use for this?

By "no network" do you mean the 735 doesn't have a network interface?
Or it does, but there's no network for you to connect it to?

If you're able to move that i386 Linux box to where the 735 is, or
vice-versa, so that you can connect them via Ethernet, then that would
likely be the easiest option.  Then with a bootp server (or a dhcpd that
can do bootp, eg the ISC dhcp server) on the Linux box you can serve the
735 a kernel to boot from and an NFS filesystem to mount.

As far as making that SCSI disk bootable to the HP, I have no idea if
this would work but you could try taking the current (out-of-date) CD
image from the FTP site and just writing it to the SCSI disk with dd.
I don't think a partition table written on the i386 would be readable by
the HP box though.

Andrew.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[Ryan Bradetich]

I believe the 735 requires rbootd.  I know debian has a package for this
and I think a redhat rbootd package can be found at:

ftp://puffin.external.hp.com/pub/parisc/binaries/tgz/rbootd-2.0-2.tar.gz

- Ryan

On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:31:54PM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote:
> Matthew van de Werken said:
> > I have a 735/99, onto which I'd like to install hppa-linux. However, I don't
> > have any of the usual methods of installing software (I have no bootable
> > CD-ROM, no tape, no network (without linux - chicken and egg problem).
> > 
> > Hwever, I *do* have a SCSI disk and a linux-x86 box onto which I can mount
> > this disk temporarily. What I'd like to be able to do is to dump a disk
> > image onto this disk, then transfer it to the 735, and boot from there. Is
> > this possible? Is there a disk image somewhere I can use for this?
> 
> By "no network" do you mean the 735 doesn't have a network interface?
> Or it does, but there's no network for you to connect it to?
> 
> If you're able to move that i386 Linux box to where the 735 is, or
> vice-versa, so that you can connect them via Ethernet, then that would
> likely be the easiest option.  Then with a bootp server (or a dhcpd that
> can do bootp, eg the ISC dhcp server) on the Linux box you can serve the
> 735 a kernel to boot from and an NFS filesystem to mount.
> 
> As far as making that SCSI disk bootable to the HP, I have no idea if
> this would work but you could try taking the current (out-of-date) CD
> image from the FTP site and just writing it to the SCSI disk with dd.
> I don't think a partition table written on the i386 would be readable by
> the HP box though.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
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> Andrew Shugg <andrew@neep.com.au>                   http://www.neep.com.au/
> 
> "Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself."
> "Is there?  Well I'd like to meet him.  I could do with a good laugh."
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[Andrew Shugg]

Ryan Bradetich said:
> I believe the 735 requires rbootd.  I know debian has a package for this
> and I think a redhat rbootd package can be found at:
> 
> ftp://puffin.external.hp.com/pub/parisc/binaries/tgz/rbootd-2.0-2.tar.gz
> 
> - Ryan

Tut tut, how did I forget that ... I also have a 735 which gets its
kernel by rbootd.  The rbootd server runs the LAN's dhcpd as well, that
is my excuse.  =)

Andrew.

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Andrew Shugg <andrew@neep.com.au>                   http://www.neep.com.au/

"Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself."
"Is there?  Well I'd like to meet him.  I could do with a good laugh."

Re: [parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:31:54PM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote:
> I don't think a partition table written on the i386 would be readable by
> the HP box though.

Actually, it is.  We decided to simply adopt the x86 partition format
rather than defining a new one.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Booting 735/99

[Grant Grundler]

"Matthew van de Werken" wrote:
> Is this possible? Is there a disk image somewhere I can use for this?

You should be able to dump the ISO to disk and boot that.
The only problem is to convince everyone to use the disk instead
of CDROM /dev special device names. I think one only has
to interactively change the "Root" parameter but haven't
tried it recently.


> Alternatively, can I build a bootable disk manually on the SCSI disk from
> the x86 box? If I do this, what do I need to do? I tried to do the
> instructions on the "Installing PA-RISC Linux" page, however I couldn't
> mount the "f0" type partition (for obvious reasons), even if I had known
> what to put there once I had.

The f0 partition is raw data and not a file system.
cvs checkout the linux and palo repositories from your x86 and
you can build an XC palo which can talk to your disk.

grant

Grant Grundler
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