[parisc-linux] hppa binutils/glibc updates

[parisc-linux] hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Randolph Chung]

Some good news, I hope....

With latest patches from Alan Modra, things seem to be looking better.
Here's what I've tried:

In a chroot built with debootstrap plus build-essential:
- Rebuild binutils from sourceware cvs
- Using new binutils, rebuild glibc (2.2.4-5) with am's latest patch

With these bits installed, the following were tested:
- build and install wget (just a simple sanity test)
- install and run libgtk1.2 and gkrellm
- recompile and run python1.5 and apache

all these seem to be ok now. Before recompiling, things like python will
die with a SIGILL

I've made a list of all the packages that got uploaded between around
Oct 15 till now. All these need to be recompiled and binary-NMU's need to
be made. James/LaMont/Bdale/myself/etc can do these fairly easily with
sbuild after new binutils and glibc bits are uploaded. Hopefully we can also
restart the buildd after that.

Chris/Ben: can you let us know when we can expect new binutils/glibc?
I'll forward the glibc patch to Ben separately.

If you can think of anything else that we should try to make sure
everything works, please let us know.

fingers crossed,
randolph
-- 
   @..@                                         http://www.TauSq.org/
  (----)
 ( >__< )
 ^^ ~~ ^^

Re: [parisc-linux] hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

Hello,

Has gcc been fixed to produce "working" binaries for the 720 (and
perhaps other machines), with the aligned stuff being fixed.

Thanks for your hard work! :-)

Regards,

Albert

Re: [parisc-linux] hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Randolph Chung]

> Has gcc been fixed to produce "working" binaries for the 720 (and
> perhaps other machines), with the aligned stuff being fixed.
> 
> Thanks for your hard work! :-)

Looks like the patch is in, but the new gcc hasn't yet been built
because of the toolchain issues. Once the official binutils is in the 
archive we can build the new gcc and see if that works....

randolph
-- 
   @..@                                         http://www.TauSq.org/
  (----)
 ( >__< )
 ^^ ~~ ^^

Re: [parisc-linux] hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

Hello,

On Sun, 04 Nov 2001, Randolph Chung wrote:

> > Has gcc been fixed to produce "working" binaries for the 720 (and
> > perhaps other machines), with the aligned stuff being fixed.
> > 
> > Thanks for your hard work! :-)
> 
> Looks like the patch is in, but the new gcc hasn't yet been built
> because of the toolchain issues. Once the official binutils is in the 
> archive we can build the new gcc and see if that works....

That's great to hear! Will someone be creating new xc tarball as well. 
or does this happen automagically? I need it to compile some test
binaries, as I assume it's going to take many weeks for all the Debian
packages to get recompiled? Or will this be unnessary in most cases?

Regards,

Albert

Re: [parisc-linux] hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 06:11:25PM +0200, Albert Strasheim wrote:
> That's great to hear! Will someone be creating new xc tarball as well. 
> or does this happen automagically? I need it to compile some test
> binaries, as I assume it's going to take many weeks for all the Debian
> packages to get recompiled? Or will this be unnessary in most cases?

i'm pretty sure the only thing which needs to get recompiled will be glibc.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

[parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Christopher C. Chimelis]

On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Randolph Chung wrote:

> In a chroot built with debootstrap plus build-essential:
> - Rebuild binutils from sourceware cvs
> - Using new binutils, rebuild glibc (2.2.4-5) with am's latest patch
> 
> With these bits installed, the following were tested:
> - build and install wget (just a simple sanity test)
> - install and run libgtk1.2 and gkrellm
> - recompile and run python1.5 and apache
> 
> all these seem to be ok now. Before recompiling, things like python will
> die with a SIGILL

That's good news :-)  FYI, I work at Agilent now (formerly HP-owned
company) and am surrounded by PA-RISC machines.  I'm trying to weasel an
extra machine out of them, but have only been there two weeks so it may
take some extra time :-P

> Chris/Ben: can you let us know when we can expect new binutils/glibc?
> I'll forward the glibc patch to Ben separately.

I'm hoping for a new one soon.  I may not package it, however, due to some
flux in other platforms.  If we can work together to isolate the patches
that are needed for hppa, I'd be happy to include those in my next upload,
though (I already am planning one).

> If you can think of anything else that we should try to make sure
> everything works, please let us know.

If I think of something, I'll write ya.  Also, if I manage to get a
machine, I'm sure you'll be hearing from me (probably will be an Apollo
series 735, fyi...slow, but effective).

C

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:10:33PM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
> If I think of something, I'll write ya.  Also, if I manage to get a
> machine, I'm sure you'll be hearing from me (probably will be an Apollo
> series 735, fyi...slow, but effective).

735 is a pretty cool machine.  don't get one which requires a
fast-wide-diff scsi interface though; we don't have that working yet.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Christopher C. Chimelis]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> 735 is a pretty cool machine.  don't get one which requires a
> fast-wide-diff scsi interface though; we don't have that working yet.

I think that's all we have, but I'm not sure.  I'll look at the one that I
do have and see what the "norm" is around the office (the one I have has
to remain HP-UX for work reasons, but it should be a representative sample
from what I've seen so far).  These things also don't have much RAM (mine
has 64MB, IIRC)...would I need more or would that do?

C

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:40:29PM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
> I think that's all we have, but I'm not sure.  I'll look at the one that I
> do have and see what the "norm" is around the office (the one I have has
> to remain HP-UX for work reasons, but it should be a representative sample
> from what I've seen so far).  These things also don't have much RAM (mine
> has 64MB, IIRC)...would I need more or would that do?

ok, just make sure you get a disc attached to the narrow interface,
or you'll be limited to NFS... 64MB is fine.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

[parisc-linux] Re: FW SCSI (Was hppa binutils/glibc updates)

[Daniel Williams]

What still needs to happen on FW diff SCSI to get it working?

Dan

On Sunday, November 4, 2001, at 08:29 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:10:33PM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
>> If I think of something, I'll write ya.  Also, if I manage to get a
>> machine, I'm sure you'll be hearing from me (probably will be an Apollo
>> series 735, fyi...slow, but effective).
>
> 735 is a pretty cool machine.  don't get one which requires a
> fast-wide-diff scsi interface though; we don't have that working yet.
>
> --
> Revolutions do not require corporate support.
>
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Christopher C. Chimelis]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> ok, just make sure you get a disc attached to the narrow interface,
> or you'll be limited to NFS... 64MB is fine.

Ok :-)  I'll see what I can muster this week.  We seem to be
differential-poor drive-wise, so I don't think I'll have a problem getting
a narrow drive :-)  Also, we have a few external units laying around that
are all narrow, so I may just use one of those.

C

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Randolph Chung]

I've posted debs for testing at http://gluck.debian.org/~tausq/hppa/

The following are available:

binutils (with latest patches from Alan Modra)
gcc (with ldcw alignment patch)
glibc (with latest patches from Alan Modra)
python and apache rebuilt with new toolchain bits

these are all unofficial.... Chris/Ben will be uploading official
binutils/glibc. gcc will be uploaded as soon as the new binutils are in
incoming....

there're still some problems with exception handling for g++, but in
general these should work.... pls post to the list if you find
otherwise.

randolph
-- 
Debian Developer <tausq@debian.org>
http://www.TauSq.org/

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 740 bytes --]

Hello,

On Mon, 05 Nov 2001, Randolph Chung wrote:

> I've posted debs for testing at http://gluck.debian.org/~tausq/hppa/
> 
> The following are available:
> 
> binutils (with latest patches from Alan Modra)
> gcc (with ldcw alignment patch)
> glibc (with latest patches from Alan Modra)
> python and apache rebuilt with new toolchain bits

<snippered>

I'm downloading these now, along with fresh debs. I am going to setup a
nfsroot again to test. Hopefully I can finally run ls on my 720 now? :-)

I notice that the latest kernel on http://ftp.parisc.linux.org/ is
linux-20011024.tar.gz. Are the snapshots lagging behind, or was this the
last working snapshot? :-)

Thanks for the hard work!

Regards,

Albert

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --]

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Thomas Marteau]

Hi all,

	GOOD NEWS
	The new packages seem to solve my troubles with Expect. It seems to be
some good patches in this version.

Thanks to all guys that made them available, Thomas.
ESIEE Team

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Thomas Marteau]

> Is it now safe again to do a apt-get upgrade?

For the moment, the files are in gluck.debian.org/~tausq/hppa. But I
think they will soon be available via apt-get. But, I will wait for
doing upgrade because they are tested so not uploaded but I can be
wrong.

Thomas.
ESIEE Team

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Nathan Neulinger]

Thomas Marteau wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>         GOOD NEWS
>         The new packages seem to solve my troubles with Expect. It seems to be
> some good patches in this version.
> 
> Thanks to all guys that made them available, Thomas.
> ESIEE Team
> 
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux

Is it now safe again to do a apt-get upgrade?

-- Nathan

------------------------------------------------------------
Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  nneul@umr.edu
University of Missouri - Rolla         Phone: (573) 341-4841
Computing Services                       Fax: (573) 341-4216

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 551 bytes --]

Hello,

Things are looking good. I've been running tar and ls and whatnot. Fired
up screen to see what was going on. Seems I have a bit of a sick apt db,
and /usr/sbin/install-info just sits there sometimes, but I think most
of this can be attributed to a) nfsroot wierdness and b) a sick apt db.

I'll play around some more. Don't know when my local mirror is going to
have these packages, so I'm going to try to setup a mirror on one of my
machines again over the weekend and attempt a fresh install with the
3.0.15 boot-floppies.

Regards,

Albert

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --]

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Christopher C. Chimelis]

FYI, I should have a new upload within the next day or two that includes
the patches from Randolph and Alan.  I'll let you know when the source
package is in incoming so that you can build them and get them installed
ASAP.

C

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Thomas Marteau wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 	GOOD NEWS
> 	The new packages seem to solve my troubles with Expect. It seems to be
> some good patches in this version.
> 
> Thanks to all guys that made them available, Thomas.
> ESIEE Team
> 
> 

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1244 bytes --]

Hello,

I've managed to battle with apt a bit more. Some more stuff is now
installed. I broke screen though. Some nfs thing.

Anyway, next mini-hurdle:

init-2.05# apt-get update
Get:1 http://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za testing/main Packages [1139kB]
Get:Illegal instruction

dmesg output:

!!die_if_kernel: apt-get(3956): Privileged register - shouldn't happen! 11

     YZrvWESTHLNXBCVMcbcbcbcbOGFRQPDI
PSW: 00000000000001101111111100001111
r0-3     00000000 401e43fc 401845ff 00045990
r4-7     401e5bfc faf00d10 faf00b90 0000000a
r8-11    0004d1b0 faf00948 0004d1d8 faf00ba8
r12-15   00000000 faf00b98 000c5210 00000000
r16-19   00000000 00000000 10348000 00045220
r20-23   00000002 401cec20 401845b0 00000000
r24-27   00000020 00045998 faf00d90 00040220
r28-31   faf00d10 00000005 faf00e00 00026f03
sr0-3    00000000 0000004c 00000000 0000004c
sr4-7    0000004c 0000004c 0000004c 0000004c

IASQ: 0000004c 0000004c IAOQ: 401cec23 401cec27
 IIR: 00040948    ISR: 0000004c  IOR: 00000000
 CPU:        0   CR30: 15bb0000 CR31: 10350000
 ORIG_R28: 00000001

Clearly it does happen. Mehehe. :-)

Should I decode this? I think I'll find instructions in the list
archive? Search for "decode"?

That's about it for now. Keep on rollin'! :-)

Regards,

Albert

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --]

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

Hello,

Forgot to add the kernel info to previous post...

init-2.05# uname -a
Linux bob 2.4.9-pa70 #5 Tue Nov 6 12:58:22 SAST 2001 parisc unknown

This is the latest snapshot on ftp.parisc-linux.org.

Regards,

Albert

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Kaj-Michael Lang]

> For the moment, the files are in gluck.debian.org/~tausq/hppa. But I
> think they will soon be available via apt-get. But, I will wait for

Where can I find the sources+patches used ?

--
Kaj-Michael Lang , milang@tal.org

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 03:54:28PM +0200, Albert Strasheim wrote:
> IASQ: 0000004c 0000004c IAOQ: 401cec23 401cec27
>  IIR: 00040948    ISR: 0000004c  IOR: 00000000
>  CPU:        0   CR30: 15bb0000 CR31: 10350000
>  ORIG_R28: 00000001
> 
> Clearly it does happen. Mehehe. :-)
> 
> Should I decode this? I think I'll find instructions in the list
> archive? Search for "decode"?

401cec23 is in a library... it might need to get recompiled too.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Richard Hirst]

On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 02:36:16PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 03:54:28PM +0200, Albert Strasheim wrote:
> >      YZrvWESTHLNXBCVMcbcbcbcbOGFRQPDI
> > PSW: 00000000000001101111111100001111
> > r0-3     00000000 401e43fc 401845ff 00045990
> > r4-7     401e5bfc faf00d10 faf00b90 0000000a
> > r8-11    0004d1b0 faf00948 0004d1d8 faf00ba8
> > r12-15   00000000 faf00b98 000c5210 00000000
> > r16-19   00000000 00000000 10348000 00045220
> > r20-23   00000002 401cec20 401845b0 00000000
> > r24-27   00000020 00045998 faf00d90 00040220
> > r28-31   faf00d10 00000005 faf00e00 00026f03
> > sr0-3    00000000 0000004c 00000000 0000004c
> > sr4-7    0000004c 0000004c 0000004c 0000004c
> >
> > IASQ: 0000004c 0000004c IAOQ: 401cec23 401cec27
> >  IIR: 00040948    ISR: 0000004c  IOR: 00000000
> >  CPU:        0   CR30: 15bb0000 CR31: 10350000
> >  ORIG_R28: 00000001
> > 
> > Clearly it does happen. Mehehe. :-)
> > 
> > Should I decode this? I think I'll find instructions in the list
> > archive? Search for "decode"?
> 
> 401cec23 is in a library... it might need to get recompiled too.

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Richard Hirst]

On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:16:13PM +0000, Richard Hirst wrote:
> apt-get works fine for me, btw (715/75 and a500), running apt 0.5.4

Hmm, having switch from chroot to real root on the a500, I'm
now seeing this same SIGILL.

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

Hello,

Seems with all the apt db madness, libstdc++ didn't get installed the
first time. I installed it again, and things worked (better). There is
something strange going on with my nfsroot. Don't know if it's some nfs
setting or something... I get "too many symlinks" and "I/O" errors.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2001, Richard Hirst wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:16:13PM +0000, Richard Hirst wrote:
> > apt-get works fine for me, btw (715/75 and a500), running apt 0.5.4
> 
> Hmm, having switch from chroot to real root on the a500, I'm
> now seeing this same SIGILL.

Hehe. Can't help you there...

Anyway, I'm going to attempt a 3.0.15 boot-floppies install now. I
presume this is probably not going to work yet? We'll soon find out...

Seems the lifimage I crafted with palo is a bit ill. I'm going try to
kick my nfsroot into shape, and try to debootstrap onto my SCSI disk.

Regards,

Albert

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Albert Strasheim]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 922 bytes --]

Hello,

Whoohooo. I bootstrapped my SCSI disk by hand (took a while; thank
goodness for Perl and sed).

And now... it just works! :-) Almost.

I can boot single-user mode with /sbin/init, but if I boot multi-user
(runlevel 2), everything starts fine up until cron comes up -- then
minicom goes Offline and the system is MIA. I currently still have
start-stop-daemon replaced with /bin/true, so I don't know why it's even
doing much. Now that I think about it, it might be something that comes
after cron. The getty perhaps? What needs to get configured here to make
it work with serial console?

bash-2.05# uname -a
Linux bob 2.4.9-pa70 #13 Wed Nov 7 00:25:29 SAST 2001 parisc unknown

apt-get install works. ls works. tar works. lynx works. Gonna try gcc
now. I think I can find some source to compile.

Thanks again Alan and Randolph. And thanks Matt. And thanks Debian. And
thanks HP... muhehehehehe.

Regards,

Albert

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --]

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: hppa binutils/glibc updates

[Richard Hirst]

On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:38:02AM +0200, Albert Strasheim wrote:
> after cron. The getty perhaps? What needs to get configured here to make
> it work with serial console?

Enable the relevant line in /etc/inittab, something like

T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100

and add ttyS0 to /etc/securetty to enable root logins.

Richard