[parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Zibing Yang]

Hi,
I am a beginner in linux and recently got a used HP
Visualize C3600 workstation. I realized that
parisc-linux is the obvious ( the only???) solution
for me. 
I am just wondering if I could install popular Linux
software after I install parisc-linux? As far as I
know, most of the softwares were developed for
PC-based Linux. Particularly I would like to know if I
could run office-like software, windows-emulator,
video-rendering software. 
Thanks a lot. 
Zibing

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Re: [parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Grant Grundler]

Zibing Yang wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a beginner in linux and recently got a used HP
> Visualize C3600 workstation.

Beware that only Vis-EG PCI is supported by parisc-linux 
on that box.

...
> As far as I know, most of the softwares were developed for
> PC-based Linux.

Under debian, 95% of the packages build on nearly every CPU architecture.
See http://buildd.debian.org/stats/.

> Particularly I would like to know if I
> could run office-like software, windows-emulator,
> video-rendering software. 

In general, you should look for packages in "testing" here:
	http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

kword is available though I've never used it.
I'm not aware of anyone trying to run an IA32 emulator on parisc-linux.
gimp and gqview seem to work. Not sure what's availble
for video (eg mpeg) editing.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Helge Deller]

On Monday 27 May 2002 21:07, Grant Grundler wrote:
> Zibing Yang wrote:
> > Particularly I would like to know if I
> > could run office-like software, windows-emulator,
> > video-rendering software.

> I'm not aware of anyone trying to run an IA32 emulator on parisc-linux.

fyi, bochs compiled from CVS sources (with small modifications) worked 
for me.

Greetings,
Helge

Re: [parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Zibing Yang]

> > I'm not aware of anyone trying to run an IA32
> emulator on parisc-linux.
> 
> fyi, bochs compiled from CVS sources (with small
> modifications) worked 
> for me.

Helge, can you provide more information about your
computer running Bochs? Are you able to run, for
example, windows 98, install stardard windows-based
softwares? How's the speed compared to the same
software run on PC+windows? Why didn't use wine? 
I am still heavily relying on windows-based software
everyday, so would love to install a windows-emulator
on my hp workstation.
Thanks a lot.
zibing



> Greetings,
> Helge


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Re: [parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Jeremy Drake]

On Mon, 27 May 2002, Zibing Yang wrote:

> > > I'm not aware of anyone trying to run an IA32
> > emulator on parisc-linux.
> > 
> > fyi, bochs compiled from CVS sources (with small
> > modifications) worked 
> > for me.
> 
> Helge, can you provide more information about your
> computer running Bochs? Are you able to run, for
> example, windows 98, install stardard windows-based
> softwares? How's the speed compared to the same
> software run on PC+windows? Why didn't use wine? 
> I am still heavily relying on windows-based software
> everyday, so would love to install a windows-emulator
> on my hp workstation.
> Thanks a lot.
> zibing
I also tried bochs on my parisc machine.  It works ok, although slow.  I 
installed NT 4 in it.  I had a few problems, but I was able to work around 
them.

The reason that wine won't work is that wine is just a windows system call 
emulator.  The program executes on the cpu, and I'm sure that none of your 
windows programs will run on a parisc cpu :)

> 
> 
> 
> > Greetings,
> > Helge
> 
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Zibing Yang]

--- Jeremy Drake <jeremyd@apptechsys.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2002, Zibing Yang wrote:
> 
> > > > I'm not aware of anyone trying to run an IA32
> > > emulator on parisc-linux.
> > > 
> > > fyi, bochs compiled from CVS sources (with small
> > > modifications) worked 
> > > for me.
> > 
> > Helge, can you provide more information about your
> > computer running Bochs? Are you able to run, for
> > example, windows 98, install stardard
> windows-based
> > softwares? How's the speed compared to the same
> > software run on PC+windows? Why didn't use wine? 
> > I am still heavily relying on windows-based
> software
> > everyday, so would love to install a
> windows-emulator
> > on my hp workstation.
> > Thanks a lot.
> > zibing
> I also tried bochs on my parisc machine.  It works
> ok, although slow.  I 
> installed NT 4 in it.  I had a few problems, but I
> was able to work around 
> them.
> 
> The reason that wine won't work is that wine is just
> a windows system call 
> emulator.  The program executes on the cpu, and I'm
> sure that none of your 
> windows programs will run on a parisc cpu :)
> 

How about plex86? Plex 86, bochs and wine are all
listed on
http://packages.debian.org/testing/allpackages.html.
I am confused because I thought all packages listed
there ought to work with parisc.


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Re: [parisc-linux] Can I run popular Linux software on parisc-linux?

[Helge Deller]

On Monday 27 May 2002 23:59, Zibing Yang wrote:
> --- Jeremy Drake <jeremyd@apptechsys.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 May 2002, Zibing Yang wrote:
> > > > > I'm not aware of anyone trying to run an IA32
> > > >
> > > > emulator on parisc-linux.
> > > >
> > > > fyi, bochs compiled from CVS sources (with small
> > > > modifications) worked
> > > > for me.
> > >
> > > Helge, can you provide more information about your
> > > computer running Bochs? Are you able to run, for
> > > example, windows 98, install stardard
> >
> > windows-based
> >
> > > softwares? How's the speed compared to the same
> > > software run on PC+windows? Why didn't use wine?
> > > I am still heavily relying on windows-based
> >
> > software
> >
> > > everyday, so would love to install a
> >
> > windows-emulator
> >
> > > on my hp workstation.
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > > zibing
> >
> > I also tried bochs on my parisc machine.  It works
> > ok, although slow.  I
> > installed NT 4 in it.  I had a few problems, but I
> > was able to work around
> > them.
> >
> > The reason that wine won't work is that wine is just
> > a windows system call
> > emulator.  The program executes on the cpu, and I'm
> > sure that none of your
> > windows programs will run on a parisc cpu :)
>
> How about plex86? 

Quote from the plex86 homepage (http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/plex86):
"Note:If you want to run IA-32 on a non-IA-32 architecture, then bochs is the project that you want to checkout--look for them over at SourceForge."

> Plex 86, bochs and wine are all listed on
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/allpackages.html.
> I am confused because I thought all packages listed
> there ought to work with parisc.

No, it's just a collection of _all_ source packages available.
Not all will run on any platform, e.g. there's normally no reason to get lilo for PA-RISC,
where you have to use the palo bootloader.

Last time I tried bochs was ~ 4 months back. I used it on a C3000 (400 MHz PA 2.0 CPU, UP)
and if it's speed was comparable as an 486 class CPU -iirc.

Greetings,
Helge