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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: "Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)" <chleroy@kernel.org>
Cc: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] mm: constify the pte_offset_map_ro_nolock() return value
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 10:54:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anMHQn_mBs6DTrZB@pedro-suse.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <595fe323-59d3-4f4a-92a3-ac5d67b7461b@kernel.org>

On Wed, Aug 05, 2026 at 07:58:02AM +0200, Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP) wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 04/08/2026 à 21:22, Pedro Falcato a écrit :
> > On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 12:22:19PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > >   			if (!pte) {
> > > >   				mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> > > >   				result = SCAN_NO_PTE_TABLE;
> > > > diff --git a/mm/pgtable-generic.c b/mm/pgtable-generic.c
> > > > index b91b1a98029c..2cfc6e608ef4 100644
> > > > --- a/mm/pgtable-generic.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/pgtable-generic.c
> > > > @@ -308,8 +308,8 @@ pte_t *__pte_offset_map(pmd_t *pmd, unsigned long addr, pmd_t *pmdvalp)
> > > >   	return NULL;
> > > >   }
> > > > 
> > > > -pte_t *pte_offset_map_ro_nolock(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmd,
> > > > -				unsigned long addr, spinlock_t **ptlp)
> > > > +const pte_t *pte_offset_map_ro_nolock(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmd,
> > > 
> > > Can pmd be const too?
> > 
> > I was going to say "yes but then pmdp_get() also needs to be constfified" but
> > actually no, it can't:
> > 
> > pte_t *__pte_offset_map(pmd_t *pmd, unsigned long addr, pmd_t *pmdvalp) {
> >          if (unlikely(pmd_bad(pmdval))) {
> >                  pmd_clear_bad(pmd);
> >                  goto nomap;
> >          }
> > }
> > 
> > so PTE mapping actually needs to write to the pmdp if the pmd looks bad.
> > Tricky stuff :)
> 
> But if pmd is const, can it be bad at all ?

Yes, you just need a stray write or a bit of memory corruption and it can
go bad. And then we need to do clear_bad() :)

(it's unclear to me whether this is actually common or useful enough these
days; the way this was explained to me, page tables can be best-effort
redundant; but it's not like we know clearing the whole range is ok, and
the way pmd_ERROR, etc work they don't even communicate to userspace what
happened, unlike normal hwpoison mechanisms)

-- 
Pedro

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03 16:43 [PATCH v2 0/6] mm: add basic PTE const type-safety Pedro Falcato
2026-08-03 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] mm/arm64: constify pte_get*() and contpte get logic Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 10:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 12:31     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 12:36       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] parisc: Drop own implementations for ptep_get() and ptep_test_and_clear_young() Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 11:11   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 12:34     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 12:42       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 13:00         ` Helge Deller
2026-08-04 13:03           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] mm/powerpc/8xx: constify ptep_get() argument Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 11:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 12:38     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 12:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 12:50     ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-08-04 12:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 13:08         ` LEROY Christophe
2026-08-04 13:09         ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-08-03 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] mm/s390: " Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 11:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] mm: constify generic pte_get*() Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 11:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-05 10:14   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 16:44 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] mm: constify the pte_offset_map_ro_nolock() return value Pedro Falcato
2026-08-04 11:22   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-04 19:22     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-08-05  5:58       ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-08-05  9:54         ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-08-03 18:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] mm: add basic PTE const type-safety Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-08-04  6:55 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-08-05 10:42 ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-08-05 12:40   ` Pedro Falcato

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