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From: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv2 00/13] iommu: Add MSI mapping support with nested SMMU
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 15:54:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de6b9dc1-dedd-4a3d-9db7-cb4b8e281697@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250123132432.GJ5556@nvidia.com>


Hi Jason,

On 1/23/25 2:24 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 09:06:49AM +0000, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi wrote:
>
>> One confusion I have about the above text is, do we still plan to support the
>> approach -1( Using RMR in Qemu)
> Yes, it remains an option. The VMM would use the
> IOMMU_OPTION_SW_MSI_START/SIZE ioctls to tell the kernel where it
> wants to put the RMR region then it would send the RMR into the VM
> through ACPI.
>
> The kernel side promises that the RMR region will have a consistent
> (but unpredictable!) layout of ITS pages (however many are required)
> within that RMR space, regardless of what devices/domain are attached.
>
> I would like to start with patches up to #10 for this part as it
> solves two of the three problems here.
>
>> or you are just mentioning it here because
>> it is still possible to make use of that. I think from previous discussions the
>> argument was to adopt a more dedicated MSI pass-through model which I
>> think is  approach-2 here.  
> The basic flow of the pass through model is shown in the last two
> patches, it is not fully complete but is testable. It assumes a single
> ITS page. The VM would use IOMMU_OPTION_SW_MSI_START/SIZE to put the
> ITS page at the correct S2 location and then describe it in the ACPI
> as an ITS page not a RMR.
This is a nice to have feature but not mandated in the first place, is it?
>
> The VMM will capture the MSI writes and use
> VFIO_IRQ_SET_ACTION_PREPARE to convey the guests's S1 translation to
> the IRQ subsystem.
>
> This missing peice is cleaning up the ITS mapping to allow for
> multiple ITS pages. I've imagined that kvm would someone give iommufd
> a FD that holds the specific ITS pages instead of the
> IOMMU_OPTION_SW_MSI_START/SIZE flow.
That's what I don't get: at the moment you only pass the gIOVA. With
technique 2, how can you build the nested mapping, ie.

         S1           S2
gIOVA    ->    gDB    ->    hDB

without passing the full gIOVA/gDB S1 mapping to the host?

Eric


>
> Jason
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-29 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-11  3:32 [PATCH RFCv2 00/13] iommu: Add MSI mapping support with nested SMMU Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 01/13] genirq/msi: Store the IOMMU IOVA directly in msi_desc instead of iommu_cookie Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23 17:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-01-23 18:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 12:11       ` Eric Auger
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 02/13] genirq/msi: Rename iommu_dma_compose_msi_msg() to msi_msg_set_msi_addr() Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23 17:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-01-23 18:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 10:44       ` Eric Auger
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 03/13] iommu: Make iommu_dma_prepare_msi() into a generic operation Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23 17:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-01-23 18:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 12:29       ` Eric Auger
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 04/13] irqchip: Have CONFIG_IRQ_MSI_IOMMU be selected by the irqchips that need it Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 05/13] iommu: Turn fault_data to iommufd private pointer Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23  9:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-01-23 13:25     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 12:40   ` Eric Auger
2025-02-03 17:48     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 06/13] iommufd: Make attach_handle generic Nicolin Chen
2025-01-18  8:23   ` Yi Liu
2025-01-18 20:32     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-19 10:40       ` Yi Liu
2025-01-20  5:54         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-24 13:31           ` Yi Liu
2025-01-20 14:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 13:14   ` Eric Auger
2025-02-03 18:08     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 07/13] iommufd: Implement sw_msi support natively Nicolin Chen
2025-01-15  4:21   ` Yury Norov
2025-01-16 20:21     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23 19:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 08/13] iommu: Turn iova_cookie to dma-iommu private pointer Nicolin Chen
2025-01-13 16:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 09/13] iommufd: Add IOMMU_OPTION_SW_MSI_START/SIZE ioctls Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23 10:07   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-02-03 18:36     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-29 13:44   ` Eric Auger
2025-01-29 14:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 17:23       ` Eric Auger
2025-01-29 17:39         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 17:49           ` Eric Auger
2025-01-29 20:15             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  4:26       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-07 14:30         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 15:28           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 18:59             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-09 18:09               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 10/13] iommufd/selftes: Add coverage for IOMMU_OPTION_SW_MSI_START/SIZE Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 11/13] iommufd/device: Allow setting IOVAs for MSI(x) vectors Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 12/13] vfio-iommufd: Provide another layer of msi_iova helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  3:32 ` [PATCH RFCv2 13/13] vfio/pci: Allow preset MSI IOVAs via VFIO_IRQ_SET_ACTION_PREPARE Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23  9:06 ` [PATCH RFCv2 00/13] iommu: Add MSI mapping support with nested SMMU Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2025-01-23 13:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 14:54     ` Eric Auger [this message]
2025-01-29 15:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 17:46         ` Eric Auger
2025-01-29 20:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 12:55             ` Eric Auger
2025-02-04 13:02               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-05 22:49 ` Jacob Pan
2025-02-05 22:56   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-07 14:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 14:42   ` Thomas Gleixner

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