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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
Cc: "Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Jingoo Han" <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rick Wertenbroek" <rick.wertenbroek@gmail.com>,
	"Niklas Cassel" <cassel@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/6] Improve PCI memory mapping API
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:47:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241022204752.GA881656@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <848f676b-afce-472e-872d-53a32af094c1@kernel.org>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 10:51:53AM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 10/22/24 07:19, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 08:32:40PM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> >> This series introduces the new functions pci_epc_mem_map() and
> >> pci_epc_mem_unmap() to improve handling of the PCI address mapping
> >> alignment constraints of endpoint controllers in a controller
> >> independent manner.
> > 
> > Hi Damien, I know this is obvious to everybody except me, but who
> > uses this mapping?  A driver running on the endpoint that does
> > MMIO?  DMA (Memory Reads or Writes that target an endpoint BAR)?
> > I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole endpoint driver
> > model.
> 
> The mapping API is for mmio or DMA using endpoint controller memory
> mapped to a host PCI address range. It is not for BARs. BARs setup
> does not use the same API and has not changed with these patches.
> 
> BARs can still be accessed on the endpoint (within the EPF driver)
> with regular READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() once they are set. But any
> data transfer between the PCI RC host and the EPF driver on the EP
> host that use mmio or DMA generic channel (memory copy offload
> channel) needs the new mapping API. DMA transfers that can be done
> using dedicated DMA rx/tx channels associated with the endpoint
> controller do not need to use this API as the mapping to the host
> PCI address space is automatically handled by the DMA driver.

Sorry I'm dense.  I'm really not used to thinking in the endpoint
point of view.  Correct me where I go off the rails:

  - This code (pci_epc_mem_map()) runs on an endpoint, basically as
    part of some endpoint firmware, right?

  - On the endpoint's PCIe side, it receives memory read/write TLPs?

  - These TLPs would be generated elsewhere in the PCIe fabric, e.g.,
    by a driver on the host doing MMIO to the endpoint, or possibly
    another endpoint doing peer-to-peer DMA.

  - Mem read/write TLPs are routed by address, and the endpoint
    accepts them if the address matches one of its BARs.

  - This is a little different from a Root Complex, which would
    basically treat reads/writes to anything outside the Root Port
    windows as incoming DMA headed to physical memory.

  - A Root Complex would use the TLP address (the PCI bus address)
    directly as a CPU physical memory address unless the TLP address
    is translated by an IOMMU.

  - For the endpoint, you want the BAR to be an aperture to physical
    memory in the address space of the SoC driving the endpoint.

  - The SoC physical memory address may be different from the PCI but
    address in the TLP, and pci_epc_mem_map() is the way to account
    for this?

  - IOMMU translations from PCI to CPU physical address space are
    pretty arbitrary and needn't be contiguous on the CPU side.

  - pci_epc_mem_map() sets up a conceptually similar PCI to CPU
    address space translation, but it's much simpler because it
    basically applies just a constant offset?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-12 11:32 [PATCH v6 0/6] Improve PCI memory mapping API Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:32 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] PCI: endpoint: Introduce pci_epc_function_is_valid() Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] PCI: endpoint: Improve pci_epc_mem_alloc_addr() Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:32 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] PCI: endpoint: Introduce pci_epc_mem_map()/unmap() Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:47   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-13  9:06   ` Niklas Cassel
2024-10-14 13:09     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-15  6:01       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-12 11:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] PCI: endpoint: Update documentation Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:48   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-12 11:32 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] PCI: endpoint: test: Use pci_epc_mem_map/unmap() Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:32 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] PCI: dwc: endpoint: Implement the pci_epc_ops::align_addr() operation Damien Le Moal
2024-10-12 11:53   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-12 11:57 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] Improve PCI memory mapping API Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-12 12:03   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-21 22:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-10-22  1:51   ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-22  8:38     ` Niklas Cassel
2024-10-22 11:57       ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-22 13:56       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-22 14:16         ` Niklas Cassel
2024-10-22 15:18           ` Frank Li
2024-10-22 15:30           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-10-22 22:12             ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-22 20:47     ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2024-10-22 22:05       ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-22 23:49         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-10-23  2:51           ` Damien Le Moal
2024-10-23  9:29             ` Niklas Cassel

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