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From: Karolina Stolarek <karolina.stolarek@oracle.com>
To: Jon Pan-Doh <pandoh@google.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Petersen <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Ben Fuller <ben.fuller@oracle.com>,
	Drew Walton <drewwalton@microsoft.com>,
	Anil Agrawal <anilagrawal@meta.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] PCI/AER: Introduce ratelimit for AER IRQs
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:38:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <487cf559-1a11-4997-9ff5-19f667ef652f@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMC_AXUeUqxaqd9_rAx4cYq6D9QCEkxUS6p4Sx24xZL4TQ831w@mail.gmail.com>

On 18/01/2025 02:58, Jon Pan-Doh wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 4:02 AM Karolina Stolarek
> <karolina.stolarek@oracle.com> wrote:
>> To confirm that I understand the flow -- when we're processing
>> aer_err_info, that potentially carries a couple of errors, and we hit a
>> ratelimit, we mask the error bits in Error Status Register and print
>> a warning. After doing so, we won't see these types of errors reported
>> again. What if some time passes (let's say, 2 mins), and we hit a
>> condition that would normally generate an error but it's now masked? Are
>> we fine with missing it? I think we should be informed about
>> Uncorrectable errors as much as possible, as they indicate Link
>> integrity issues.
> 
> Your understanding is correct. There's definitely more nuance/tradeoff
> with uncorrectable errors (likelihood of uncorrectable spam vs.
> missing critical errors). At the minimum, I think the uncorrectable
> IRQ default should be higher (semi-arbitrarily chose defaults for
> IRQs).

My comment was mostly me worrying about Uncorrectable errors. Pulling 
the plug on Correctable errors after we see too many is reasonable, I think.

> I think a dynamic (un)masking in the kernel is a bit too much and
> punted the decision to userspace (e.g. rasdaemon et al.) to manage
> (part of OCP Fault Management groups roadmap).

I agree. Still, if we decide to go with IRQ masking for (Un)correctable 
errors, this should be communicated to the user in the documentation.

All the best,
Karolina

> 
> Other options include:
> - only focus on correctable errors
>      - seen uncorrectable spam e.g. new HW bringup but it is rarer
> - some type of system-wide toggle (sysfs, kernel config/cmdline) for
> uncorrectable spam handling (may be clunky)
> 
> Thanks,
> Jon


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-20 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-15  7:42 [PATCH 0/8] Rate limit AER logs/IRQs Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 1/8] PCI/AER: Remove aer_print_port_info Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-16 14:27   ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-18  1:57     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-20  9:25       ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-02-12 23:20         ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-21 14:18   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-02-12 23:20     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-25  4:15   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2025-02-12 23:20     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 2/8] PCI/AER: Move AER stat collection out of __aer_print_error Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-16 14:47   ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-18  1:57     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-25  4:37   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2025-02-12 23:20     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 3/8] PCI/AER: Rename struct aer_stats to aer_info Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-16 10:11   ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-18  1:59     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-20 10:13       ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-02-12 23:20         ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 4/8] PCI/AER: Introduce ratelimit for error logs Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-16 11:11   ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-18  1:59     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-20 10:25       ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 5/8] PCI/AER: Introduce ratelimit for AER IRQs Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-16 12:02   ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-18  1:58     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-20 10:38       ` Karolina Stolarek [this message]
2025-01-25  7:39   ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-31 14:43     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-04 23:42       ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-02-06 13:56     ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-02-06 20:25       ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-31 14:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-04 23:42     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 6/8] PCI/AER: Add AER sysfs attributes for ratelimits Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-31 14:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-28 23:11     ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] PCI/AER: Update AER sysfs ABI filename Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-15  7:43 ` [PATCH 8/8] PCI/AER: Move AER sysfs attributes into separate directory Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-16 10:26   ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-01-16 17:18     ` Rajat Jain
2025-01-31 14:36       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-12 23:19         ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-23 15:18 ` [PATCH 0/8] Rate limit AER logs/IRQs Bowman, Terry
2025-01-24  6:46   ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-01-25  7:59     ` Lukas Wunner
2025-02-06 13:32 ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-02-12 23:19   ` Jon Pan-Doh
2025-02-13 16:00     ` Karolina Stolarek
2025-02-14  2:49       ` Jon Pan-Doh

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