From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Iain Lane <iain@orangesquash.org.uk>,
Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/2] PCI: Don't put non-power manageable PCIe root ports into D3
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:10:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e82ec662-22d9-b331-0880-886bd28624eb@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230802052601.GM14638@black.fi.intel.com>
On 8/2/23 00:26, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> Hi Mario,
>
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 10:17:11PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>> Consequently, platform_pci_bridge_d3() will return false and the only
>>> thing that may allow the port to go into D0 is the dmi_get_bios_year()
>>> check at the end of pci_bridge_d3_possible().
>>>
>>> However, that was added, because there are Intel platforms on which
>>> Root Ports need to be programmed into D3hot on suspend (which allows
>>> the whole platform to reduce power significantly) and there are no
>>> ACPI device power management objects associated with them (Mika should
>>> know the gory details related to this). It looks like under Windows
>>> the additional power reduction would not be possible on those systems,
>>> but that would be a problem, wouldn't it?
>>>
>>
>> I've been thinking on this today, and I at least have a hypothesis about
>> this behavior. Perhaps Windows is actually utilizing enabled PEP
>> constraints to enforce what state device should be put into over Modern
>> Standby cycles in the absence of ACPI objects.
>>
>> In the case of one of my problematic system the PEP constraints for the root
>> port are:
>>
>> Package (0x04)
>> {
>> 0x00,
>> "\\_SB.PCI0.GP17",
>> 0x00,
>> 0x00
>> },
>>
>> That first 0x00 means the constraint isn't actually enabled for the root
>> port.
>>
>> Mika,
>>
>> Could you get an acpidump from one of these problematic Intel systems so we
>> can check the PEP constraints to see if this theory works? Or maybe you have
>> some other ideas why this is different?
>
> The patch adding this was merged in 2016 and unfortunately I don't have
> any of the ACPI dumps from them available anymore (and do not recall the
> details either). I think these were Apollo Lake-P based systems with the
> initial runtime D3cold and S0ix support at the time.
I scoured the web looking for acpidumps a bit an Apollo Lake system and
came across this random bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1591307
"Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N3450 @ 1.10GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0x5c,
stepping: 0x9)"
I looked at the acpidump, and I notice:
Low Power S0 Idle (V5) : 0
That means that Windows wouldn't actually be putting it into Modern
Standby at suspend but would rather use S3.
Considering that result, could we perhaps adjust the check to:
if ((c->x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_INTEL) && !(acpi_gbl_FADT.flags &
ACPI_FADT_LOW_POWER_S0))
Or could we quirk the PCI root ports from Apollo Lake to opt into D3?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-02 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-11 0:53 [PATCH v7 0/2] Fix wakeup problems on some AMD platforms Mario Limonciello
2023-07-11 0:53 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] PCI: Refactor pci_bridge_d3_possible() Mario Limonciello
2023-07-11 0:53 ` [PATCH v7 2/2] PCI: Don't put non-power manageable PCIe root ports into D3 Mario Limonciello
2023-07-11 22:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-07-11 22:54 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-07-12 12:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-07-12 16:09 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-07-14 19:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-07-15 0:46 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-08-01 3:25 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-08-01 10:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-02 3:17 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-08-02 5:26 ` Mika Westerberg
2023-08-02 14:10 ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2023-08-02 14:31 ` Mika Westerberg
2023-08-02 14:35 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-08-02 15:00 ` Mika Westerberg
[not found] ` <67fa2dda-f383-1864-57b8-08b86263bd02@amd.com>
2023-08-01 9:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-07-12 11:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-07-12 15:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
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