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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, ravi.bangoria@amd.com, ananth.narayan@amd.com,
	kim.phillips@amd.com, rrichter@amd.com,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, mark.rutland@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] tools/perf/x86: Use alternative format for AMD raw events
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:41:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YZE8SDkzq0OMcmhS@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211111125646.581021-1-sandipan.das@amd.com>

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 06:26:46PM +0530, Sandipan Das wrote:

SNIP

> Before:
> 
>   $ sudo perf --debug perf-event-open stat -e ic_tag_hit_miss.all_instruction_cache_accesses sleep 1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   perf_event_attr:
>     type                             4
>     size                             128
>     config                           0x100001f8e
>     sample_type                      IDENTIFIER
>     read_format                      TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
>     disabled                         1
>     inherit                          1
>     enable_on_exec                   1
>     exclude_guest                    1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   [...]
> 
>   $ sudo perf --debug perf-event-open stat -e r1f18e sleep 1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   perf_event_attr:
>     type                             4
>     size                             128
>     config                           0x1f18e
>     sample_type                      IDENTIFIER
>     read_format                      TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
>     disabled                         1
>     inherit                          1
>     enable_on_exec                   1
>     exclude_guest                    1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   [...]
> 
>   $ sudo perf --debug perf-event-open stat -e r100001f8e sleep 1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   perf_event_attr:
>     type                             4
>     size                             128
>     config                           0x100001f8e
>     sample_type                      IDENTIFIER
>     read_format                      TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
>     disabled                         1
>     inherit                          1
>     enable_on_exec                   1
>     exclude_guest                    1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   [...]
> 
> After:
> 
>   $ sudo perf --debug perf-event-open stat -e ic_tag_hit_miss.all_instruction_cache_accesses sleep 1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   perf_event_attr:
>     type                             4
>     size                             128
>     config                           0x100001f8e
>     sample_type                      IDENTIFIER
>     read_format                      TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
>     disabled                         1
>     inherit                          1
>     enable_on_exec                   1
>     exclude_guest                    1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   [...]
> 
>   $ sudo perf --debug perf-event-open stat -e r1f18e sleep 1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   perf_event_attr:
>     type                             4
>     size                             128
>     config                           0x100001f8e
>     sample_type                      IDENTIFIER
>     read_format                      TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
>     disabled                         1
>     inherit                          1
>     enable_on_exec                   1
>     exclude_guest                    1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   [...]
> 
>   $ sudo perf --debug perf-event-open stat -e r100001f8e sleep 1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   perf_event_attr:
>     type                             4
>     size                             128
>     config                           0x100001f8e
>     sample_type                      IDENTIFIER
>     read_format                      TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
>     disabled                         1
>     inherit                          1
>     enable_on_exec                   1
>     exclude_guest                    1
>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>   [...]
> 
> It is understandable that raw events must follow the native
> PERF_CTL register format but it is worthwhile to pursue such
> alternative formats for usability?

good question.. I see raw events as a way to put to config whatever
the user wants and IMO adding changes/quirks that silently changes
config could create confusion and angry users ;-)

I'd think that if user is composing/using raw events then using
directly r100001f8e is not such a big deal?

perhaps there was some some discussion about this that I missed?

thanks,
jirka

> 
> UUEEE is something that works for the core pmu events. Data
> fabric events have a 14-bit EventSelect field and will need
> more work.
> 
>   $ cat /sys/bus/event_source/devices/amd_df/format/event
>   config:0-7,32-35,59-60
> 
> More details on registers and events can be found in the
> AMD Processor Programming Reference (PPR). The one relevant
> to the EPYC 7713 processor used here can be found at:
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=296015
> 
> Infomration on PERF_CTL MSRs start at page 185 and PMU
> events start at page 445.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>

SNIP


  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-14 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-11 12:56 [RFC PATCH] tools/perf/x86: Use alternative format for AMD raw events Sandipan Das
2021-11-14 16:41 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2021-11-15  9:58   ` Sandipan Das
2021-11-16  4:38     ` kajoljain
2021-11-16 16:01       ` Kim Phillips
2021-11-17 14:13         ` kajoljain
2021-11-18  7:28         ` Sandipan Das
2021-11-18 16:51           ` Kim Phillips
2021-11-28 15:36             ` Jiri Olsa

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