From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/17] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 11:20:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agdj81gaSSWyJkQI@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fUJFRcXFdpSy_X23NSU7zMp9SVZEqX+cEBsKP9YARGRvA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 03:23:34PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 3:06 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 09:33:52AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > This patch series refactors Kbuild internals, BPF skeleton generation,
> > > Python AST pre-computation, and foundational tooling dependencies across
> > > the perf tool build system. By eliminating umbrella target synchronization
> > > barriers, decoupling static library prerequisites, parallelizing single-core
> > > script generators, and eradicating redundant feature checks, this series
> > > unlocks absolute theoretical peak multi-core concurrency during Kbuild startup.
> > >
> > > On a 28-core build workstation (make -j28 all from scratch), clean build
> > > latency improves by over 49%:
> > >
> > > Before:
> > > real 0m29.006s
> > > user 2m46.019s
> > > sys 0m30.610s
> > >
> > > After:
> > > real 0m14.782s
> > > user 2m39.527s
> > > sys 0m22.938s
> > >
> > > Saving 14.2 full seconds time per clean build. Furthermore, nothing to
> > > build incremental builds are improved by nearly 7x:
> > >
> > > Before:
> > > real 0m11.528s
> > > user 0m9.633s
> > > sys 0m6.965s
> > >
> > > After:
> > > real 0m1.729s
> > > user 0m1.600s
> > > sys 0m0.884s
> >
> > I've quickly checked it with latency profiling like below:
> >
> > $ perf record --latency -- make -C tools/perf
> >
> > $ perf report --latency -s comm
> >
> > The result looks like this.
> >
> > Before:
> > #
> > # Samples: 715K of event 'cpu/cycles/Pu'
> > # Event count (approx.): 422452811481
> > #
> > # Latency Overhead Command
> > # ........ ........ ...............
> > #
> > 45.28% 71.33% cc1
> > 34.48% 16.92% python3
> > 11.15% 2.21% ld
> > 2.58% 1.51% x86_64-linux-gn
> > 2.22% 0.99% cc1plus
> > 0.71% 0.63% sh
> > 0.69% 0.14% llvm-config
> > 0.62% 0.56% clang
> > 0.57% 4.40% shellcheck
> > 0.44% 0.12% perl
> >
> > After:
> > #
> > # Samples: 709K of event 'cpu/cycles/Pu'
> > # Event count (approx.): 416654798495
> > #
> > # Latency Overhead Command
> > # ........ ........ ...............
> > #
> > 64.99% 71.16% cc1
> > 15.07% 1.81% ld
> > 7.14% 17.59% python3
> > 3.66% 1.53% x86_64-linux-gn
> > 3.48% 0.75% cc1plus
> > 1.11% 4.43% shellcheck
> > 1.09% 0.74% sh
> > 0.86% 0.59% clang
> > 0.77% 0.12% perl
> > 0.45% 0.23% make
> >
> > Now I see a big drop in the latency from python. And the llvm-config
> > doesn't show up in the top 10.
>
> This looks good. What is "x86_64-linux-gn", and since we default off
> LIBPERL, why does perl show up in the commands?
I don't know exactly, but it seems we have some path to run perl during
the build even LIBPERL is off. This is what `perf report --tasks` shows.
3577076 3577076 3576925 | sh
3577077 3577077 3577076 | make
3577078 3577078 3577077 | sh
3577079 3577079 3577078 | gcc
3577081 3577081 3577079 | cc1
3577080 3577080 3577078 | grep
3577082 3577082 3577077 | which
3577083 3577083 3577077 | sh
3577084 3577084 3577083 | perl
3577085 3577085 3577077 | sh
3577086 3577086 3577085 | perl
3577087 3577087 3577086 | pwd
3577088 3577088 3577086 | sh
3577089 3577089 3577088 | x86_64-linux-gn
3577090 3577090 3577089 | cc1
Thanks,
Namhyung
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2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 19:52 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 20:09 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] perf build: Move static libbpf dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 20:36 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeletons during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 21:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] tools build: Integrate libdebuginfod into test-all fast path Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 21:40 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 21:56 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 22:18 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 5:35 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] bpftool build: Restrict feature tests during bootstrap compilation Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] tools build: Integrate libdebuginfod into test-all fast path Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 23:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] tools build: Fix test-clang-bpf-co-re.bin to generate target file Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 0:15 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] tools scripts: Short-circuit CC_NO_CLANG compiler probe in Makefile.include Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 0:28 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 0:50 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 1:55 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] perf build: Move static libbpf dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 3:02 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 3:39 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 4:35 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 5:06 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 00/17] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] bpftool build: Restrict feature tests during bootstrap compilation Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] tools build: Integrate libdebuginfod into test-all fast path Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 20:55 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] tools build: Fix test-clang-bpf-co-re.bin to generate target file Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 21:10 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] perf build: Move static libbpf dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 23:35 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 23:45 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 0:39 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 1:00 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 22:06 ` [PATCH v3 00/17] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Namhyung Kim
2026-05-14 22:23 ` Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 16:20 ` Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] " Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] tools build: Fix feature checks to touch target files on success Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:04 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:45 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:30 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:09 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:32 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:41 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:48 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] tools build: Fix feature checks to touch target files on success Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:53 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:58 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 20:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:20 ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2026-05-12 9:36 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] perf build: Reduce build time by one third James Clark
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