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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Cc: sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	 Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	 Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 19/28] KVM: arm64: VHE: Context switch SPE state
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2026 14:10:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aunkjDlv8i5OkW8h@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apqtGD4IArjJHFk8@e140010.arm.com>

On Fri, Sep 04, 2026 at 12:35:52PM +0100, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> Hi Sashiko,
>
> On Thu, Sep 03, 2026 at 04:43:13PM +0000, sashiko-bot@kernel.org wrote:
> > Thank you for your contribution! Sashiko AI review found 2 potential issue(s) to consider:
> > - [High] Writing to PMBSR_EL1 after enabling the SPE profiling buffer via PMBLIMITR_EL1 is CONSTRAINED UNPREDICTABLE and can corrupt hardware events.
> > - [High] Host SPE sampling control registers (e.g., PMSNEVFR_EL1, PMSDSFR_EL1) can be permanently corrupted by a malicious guest.
> > --
> >
> > commit 32125a6226fde42baaf9001e75434e4177067f24
> > Author: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
> >
> > KVM: arm64: VHE: Context switch SPE state
> >
> > Save and restore the SPE register state when a VCPU is run. The SPE
> > resources are shared between the guest and the host (the resources are not
> > partitioned) so KVM has to save the host state, change the owning
> > translation regime, and then restore the guest state before entering a
> > guest.
> >
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/vhe/spe-sr.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/vhe/spe-sr.c
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 0000000000000..978620ad99fa5
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/vhe/spe-sr.c
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,209 @@
> > [ ... ]
> > > +static void __kvm_spe_save_sampling_regs(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_cpu_context *ctxt)
> > > +{
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * This is dependent on the VM features, and not the hardware features,
> > > +	 * even for the host, because (a) guest accesses to PMSNEVFR_EL1 and
> > > +	 * PMSDSFR_EL1 result in an undefined exception in the guest and (b)
> > > +	 * they don't affect the guest unless the guest explicitly enables them,
> > > +	 * and a well-behaved guest shouldn't enable them when the corresponding
> > > +	 * feature is not advertised.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (kvm_spe_has_feat_spe_fne(kvm))
> > > +		ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, PMSNEVFR_EL1) = read_sysreg_s(SYS_PMSNEVFR_EL1);
> >
> > [Severity: High]
> > Does this check of the guest's advertised features (kvm_spe_has_feat_spe_fne)
> > leave the host's sampling control registers vulnerable to corruption?
> >
> > If the host physically supports FEAT_SPE_FNE but the KVM VM does not
> > advertise it, KVM will skip saving and restoring the host's PMSNEVFR_EL1
> > register. Because MDCR_EL2.TPMS = 0 is cleared on guest entry, these
> > registers will not trap to EL2.
> >
> > A malicious guest could execute an msr instruction to PMSNEVFR_EL1 directly,
> > overwriting the hardware register. When the guest exits, KVM skips restoring
> > the host's value in __kvm_spe_restore_sampling_regs(), allowing the guest's
> > malicious configuration to persist in the host execution context.
> >
> > Could this be checking the host's physical capabilities instead of the VM's
> > advertised features when saving and restoring host state?
>
> Yeah, that's a good point, this is a leftover from the previous iteration where
> SPE support in KVM was dependant on FEAT_FGT, which would trap accesses to those
> registers if FEAT_SPE_FnE and/or FEAT_SPE_FDS were not exposed to the VM.
>
> If FEAT_FGT is implemented, nothing changes. But if that's not present, I see
> two way to handle it:
>
> 1. Save/restore the registers on each VM entry/exit and let the guest access
> them as it wishes. This would go against the architecture, which says that
> accesses are undefined if the corresponding feature is not implemented. In
> practice, this might not be a problem if all hardware that implements
> FEAT_SPE_FnE and FEAT_SPE_FDS also implements FEAT_FGT.

I think this is the best solution, it also means you can drop the comment :)

I don't think it would go against the architecture though, because:

1. I see in [0] that FEAT_SPE_FnE (as exposed in PMSIDR_EL1.FnE) is mandatory for
   ARMv8.7+ if FEAT_SPE is implemented:

"From Armv8.7, if FEAT_SPE is implemented, the value 0 is not permitted."

2. And in [1] that FEAT_FGT is mandatory for ARMv8.6+ if EL2 is implemented:

"In an Armv8.6 implementation, if FEAT_AA64EL2 or FEAT_AA64EL3 is implemented,
FEAT_FGT is implemented."

3. And finally I see in [0] that PMSIDR_EL1.FDS relies on FEAT_SPEv1p4
   (ARMv8.9):

"FDS, bit [7]
When FEAT_SPEv1p4 is implemented:"

Or in shorthand:

1. FnE: >=v8.7
2. FGT: >=v8.6
3. FDS: >=v8.9

So either FnE or FDS already guarantees you FGT (the VHE implementation requires
EL2 anyway).

To be clear - I'd simplify everything by replacing the VM-level check here with
an explicit check on PMSIDR_EL1. I will share suggested code in the review of
the actual patch to make that more concrete!


[0]:https://support.arm.com/documentation/ddi0601/2026-09/AArch64-Registers/PMSIDR-EL1--Sampling-Profiling-ID-Register?lang=en
[1]:https://support.arm.com/documentation/ddi0487/md/-Part-A-Arm-Architecture-Introduction-and-Overview/-Chapter-A2-A-profile-Architecture-Extensions/-A2-2-Armv8-A-architecture-extensions/-A2-2-7-The-Armv8-6-architecture-extension?lang=en

>
> 2. Trap *all* buffer control registers with MDCR_EL2.TPMS and inject an undefined
> instruction exception.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> >
> > [ ... ]
> > > +void __kvm_spe_restore_guest_state_vhe(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_cpu_context *guest_ctxt)
> > > +{
> > > +	u64 pmblimitr, pmbsr;
> > > +
> > > +	pmbsr = ctxt_sys_reg(guest_ctxt, PMBSR_EL1);
> > > +	pmblimitr = ctxt_sys_reg(guest_ctxt, PMBLIMITR_EL1);
> > > +	if (__kvm_spe_profiling_buffer_enabled(pmblimitr, pmbsr)) {
> > > +		write_sysreg_s(ctxt_sys_reg(guest_ctxt, PMBPTR_EL1), SYS_PMBPTR_EL1);
> > > +		isb();
> > > +		write_sysreg_s(pmblimitr, SYS_PMBLIMITR_EL1);
> > > +		isb();
> > > +		/* A buffer management event preserves fields in PMBSR_EL1 */
> > > +		write_sysreg_s(pmbsr, SYS_PMBSR_EL1);
> >
> > [Severity: High]
> > Is it safe to write to PMBSR_EL1 after enabling the SPE profiling buffer via
> > PMBLIMITR_EL1?
>
> I haven't found any evidence to the contrary.
>
> >
> > According to the ARM Architecture Reference Manual, when the profiling buffer
> > is enabled, a direct write to PMBSR_EL1 is constrained unpredictable. This
> > can corrupt hardware events or lead to unknown exceptions.
>
> I haven't found anything in the Arm ARM saying that, and I don't see why writing
> to PMBSR_EL1 would be a problem at all after the correct sequence for disabling
> the buffer has been followed in __kvm_spe_save_host_state_vhe().
>
> This is also how the SPE driver programs the buffer in the interrupt handler, if
> there is indeed an issue the SPE driver would also have to be fixed.

Agreed, I think this one is a non-issue.

>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> >
> > In __kvm_spe_restore_host_state_vhe(), the PMBSR_EL1 register is correctly
> > restored before PMBLIMITR_EL1. Should the guest restoration follow the same
> > sequence to avoid unpredictable behavior?
> >
> > --
> > Sashiko AI review · https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260903160623.315525-1-alexandru.elisei@arm.com?part=19
>

--
Cheers, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-03 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-03 16:05 [RFC PATCH v7 00/28] KVM: arm64: Add Statistical Profiling Extension (SPE) support Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v7 01/28] arm64/sysreg: Add the nVM field to PMBLIMITR_EL1 Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:14   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 13:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v7 02/28] arm64/sysreg: Define MDCR_EL2.E2PB values Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:12   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 13:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v7 03/28] KVM: arm64: Add CONFIG_KVM_ARM_SPE Kconfig option Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 14:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v7 04/28] perf: arm_spe_pmu: Move struct arm_spe_pmu to a separate header file Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:11   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 14:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 05/28] perf: arm_spe_pmu: Add PMBIDR_EL1 and PMSIDR_EL1 to struct arm_spe_pmu Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:11   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 15:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 06/28] KVM: arm64: Add KVM_CAP_ARM_SPE capability Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 16:51   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 07/28] KVM: arm64: Add KVM_ARM_VCPU_SPE VCPU feature Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-16 14:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 08/28] HACK! KVM: arm64: Disable SPE virtualization if protected KVM is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-16 14:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 09/28] HACK! KVM: arm64: Enable SPE virtualization only in VHE mode Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 10/28] HACK! KVM: arm64: Disable SPE virtualization if nested virt is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 11/28] KVM: arm64: Add a new VCPU device control group for SPE Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:22   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-16 14:44   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 12/28] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to set the interrupt number Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-20 17:20   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-28 16:52   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 13/28] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to set the SPE device Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04  9:32     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-10-28 13:11   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 14/28] KVM: arm64: Add SPE VCPU device attribute to initialize SPE Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:28   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-28 13:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-29 18:03   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 15/28] KVM: arm64: Use PMSVer from the assigned SPE instance Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:41   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 10:26     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-10-28 16:41   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 16/28] KVM: arm64: Add SPE system registers to VCPU context Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 10:28     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-10-29 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 17/28] KVM: arm64: Apply a RES0 mask to PMBLIMITR_EL1 writes Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:37   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 10:41     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-10-29 17:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 18/28] KVM: arm64: config: Use functions from spe.c to test FEAT_SPE_{FnE,FDS} Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:40   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-29 17:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 19/28] KVM: arm64: VHE: Context switch SPE state Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:43   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 11:35     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-11-03 14:10       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-11-03 16:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 20/28] KVM: arm64: Allow guest SPE physical timestamps only if kernel allows it Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:48   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 13:45     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-11-03 17:04   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 21/28] KVM: arm64: Handle SPE maintenance interrupts Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 14:04     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 22/28] arm64: errata: Disable SPE in KVM Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:50   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-03 20:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 23/28] KVM: arm64: Add kvm-arm.ignore_spe_errata kernel parameter Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:46   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-03 19:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 24/28] arm64: errata: Don't enable guest buffer if misprogrammed Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 17:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 25/28] KVM: arm64: at: Use callback for reading descriptor Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:51   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-03 19:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 26/28] KVM: arm64: Map memory on a SPE stage 2 fault Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 17:08   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 27/28] KVM: arm64: Handle dirty page logging when SPE feature is set Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 17:06   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 14:41     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH v7 28/28] KVM: arm64: Allow the creation of a SPE enabled VM Alexandru Elisei
2026-09-03 16:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-04 14:09     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-11-03 19:49   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-15 10:25 ` [RFC PATCH v7 00/28] KVM: arm64: Add Statistical Profiling Extension (SPE) support Alexandru Elisei
2026-10-15 12:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-15 13:22     ` Alexandru Elisei

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