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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Len Brown'" <len.brown@intel.com>
Cc: "'Srinivas Pandruvada'" <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	"'Linux PM'" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: x86_energy_perf_policy
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 08:27:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000101d64b05$2ac63200$80529600$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000701d643f0$fa0f3140$ee2d93c0$@net>

Hi Len,

When I look at the dates for patches,
I do not think that

tools/power/x86/x86_energy_perf_policy/x86_energy_perf_policy.c

even knows about intel_cpufreq (intel_pstate in passive mode).
Anyway this tool is now banned from my computers.

I'll re-phrase my previous e-mail, in a much more blunt way:

tools/power/x86/x86_energy_perf_policy/x86_energy_perf_policy.c

should be fixed or removed.

... Doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-pm-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-pm-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Doug
> Smythies
> Sent: June 16, 2020 8:15 AM
> To: 'Len Brown'
> Cc: 'Srinivas Pandruvada'; 'Linux PM'
> Subject: x86_energy_perf_policy
> 
> Hi Len,
> 
> I have been using x86_energy_perf_policy to manage EPB while I do some tests.
> I noticed it says this:
> 
> "HWP can be enabled using '--hwp-enable'"
> 
> So, I thought great, I can now in one boot do:
> 
> intel_pstate, no-HWP, performance/powersave.
> intel_cpufreq, no-HWP, all governors
> 
> run: x86_energy_perf_policy --hwp-enable
> 
> then repeat the above, but only passive, if trying some of Rafael's RFC stuff,
> which is NOT part of this e-mail.
> 
> However, enabling HWP via this method leaves my system in an unusable state.
> 
> Please confirm or deny if I am supposed to be able to enable HWP via
> x86_energy_perf_policy?
> 
> No need to read on:
> 
> Examples (kernel 5.8=rc1):
> 
> Note: I wrote my own MSR decoder. I know I could use turbostat, and do
> have it running virtually 100% of the time. However, writing my own
> decoder forced me to learn more.
> 
> Fresh boot (no=hwp forced):
> 
> root@s18:/home/doug# /home/doug/c/msr-decoder
> 8.) 0x198: IA32_PERF_STATUS     : CPU 0-5 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :
> B.) 0x770: IA32_PM_ENABLE: 0 : HWP disable
> 9.) 0x199: IA32_PERF_CTL        : CPU 0-5 :   9 :   8 :   8 :   8 :  19 :  26 :
> C.) 0x1B0: IA32_ENERGY_PERF_BIAS: CPU 0-5 :   6 :   6 :   6 :   6 :   6 :   6 :
> 1.) 0x19C: IA32_THERM_STATUS: 88480000
> 2.) 0x1AA: MSR_MISC_PWR_MGMT: 401CC0 EIST enabled Coordination enabled OOB Bit 8 reset OOB Bit 18
> reset
> 3.) 0x1B1: IA32_PACKAGE_THERM_STATUS: 88470000
> 4.) 0x64F: MSR_CORE_PERF_LIMIT_REASONS: 0
> A.) 0x1FC: MSR_POWER_CTL: 3C005D : C1E disable : RHO disable : EEO disable
> 
> Now,
> 
> # x86_energy_perf_policy --hwp-enable
> 
> root@s18:/home/doug# /home/doug/c/msr-decoder
> 8.) 0x198: IA32_PERF_STATUS     : CPU 0-5 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :
> B.) 0x770: IA32_PM_ENABLE: 1 : HWP enable
> 1.) 0x19C: IA32_THERM_STATUS: 88480000
> 2.) 0x1AA: MSR_MISC_PWR_MGMT: 401CC0 EIST enabled Coordination enabled OOB Bit 8 reset OOB Bit 18
> reset
> 3.) 0x1B1: IA32_PACKAGE_THERM_STATUS: 88460000
> 4.) 0x64F: MSR_CORE_PERF_LIMIT_REASONS: 0
> A.) 0x1FC: MSR_POWER_CTL: 3C005D : C1E disable : RHO disable : EEO disable
> 5.) 0x771: IA32_HWP_CAPABILITIES (performance): 108252E : high 46 : guaranteed 37 : efficient 8 :
> lowest 1
> 6.) 0x774: IA32_HWP_REQUEST:    CPU 0-5 :
>     raw: 8000FF01 : 8000FF01 : 8000FF01 : 8000FF01 : 8000FF01 : 8000FF01 :
>     min:        1 :        1 :        1 :        1 :        1 :        1 :
>     max:      255 :      255 :      255 :      255 :      255 :      255 :
>     des:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
>     epp:      128 :      128 :      128 :      128 :      128 :      128 :
>     act:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
> 7.) 0x777: IA32_HWP_STATUS: 0 : high 0 : guaranteed 0 : efficient 0 : lowest 0
> 
> Notice that EPP is 128, and I can not achieve full CPU speed for a workflow that should.
> Ok. So maybe I just need to toggle between performance and powersave and back. No difference.
> I tried many variations. There are many situations where the misbehaves.
> 
> If I boot with HWP enabled, I can observe EPP (and min and max) behave as expected
> and as a function of the governor. The system seems to behave.
> 
> intel_pstate / powersave:
> 
> root@s18:/home/doug# /home/doug/c/msr-decoder
> 8.) 0x198: IA32_PERF_STATUS     : CPU 0-5 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :   8 :
> B.) 0x770: IA32_PM_ENABLE: 1 : HWP enable
> 1.) 0x19C: IA32_THERM_STATUS: 88480800 PWL
> 2.) 0x1AA: MSR_MISC_PWR_MGMT: 401CC0 EIST enabled Coordination enabled OOB Bit 8 reset OOB Bit 18
> reset
> 3.) 0x1B1: IA32_PACKAGE_THERM_STATUS: 88470800 PWL
> 4.) 0x64F: MSR_CORE_PERF_LIMIT_REASONS: 4000000 PL1L
> A.) 0x1FC: MSR_POWER_CTL: 3C005D : C1E disable : RHO disable : EEO disable
> 5.) 0x771: IA32_HWP_CAPABILITIES (performance): 108252E : high 46 : guaranteed 37 : efficient 8 :
> lowest 1
> 6.) 0x774: IA32_HWP_REQUEST:    CPU 0-5 :
>     raw: 80002E08 : 80002E08 : 80002E08 : 80002E08 : 80002E08 : 80002E08 :
>     min:        8 :        8 :        8 :        8 :        8 :        8 :
>     max:       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :
>     des:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
>     epp:      128 :      128 :      128 :      128 :      128 :      128 :
>     act:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
> 7.) 0x777: IA32_HWP_STATUS: 4 : high 4 : guaranteed 0 : efficient 0 : lowest 0
> 
> intel_pstate / performance:
> 
> root@s18:/home/doug# /home/doug/c/msr-decoder
> 8.) 0x198: IA32_PERF_STATUS     : CPU 0-5 :  46 :  46 :  46 :  46 :  46 :  46 :
> B.) 0x770: IA32_PM_ENABLE: 1 : HWP enable
> 1.) 0x19C: IA32_THERM_STATUS: 88470800 PWL
> 2.) 0x1AA: MSR_MISC_PWR_MGMT: 401CC0 EIST enabled Coordination enabled OOB Bit 8 reset OOB Bit 18
> reset
> 3.) 0x1B1: IA32_PACKAGE_THERM_STATUS: 88460800 PWL
> 4.) 0x64F: MSR_CORE_PERF_LIMIT_REASONS: 4000000 PL1L
> A.) 0x1FC: MSR_POWER_CTL: 3C005D : C1E disable : RHO disable : EEO disable
> 5.) 0x771: IA32_HWP_CAPABILITIES (performance): 108252E : high 46 : guaranteed 37 : efficient 8 :
> lowest 1
> 6.) 0x774: IA32_HWP_REQUEST:    CPU 0-5 :
>     raw: 00002E2E : 00002E2E : 00002E2E : 00002E2E : 00002E2E : 00002E2E :
>     min:       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :
>     max:       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :       46 :
>     des:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
>     epp:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
>     act:        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :        0 :
> 7.) 0x777: IA32_HWP_STATUS: 4 : high 4 : guaranteed 0 : efficient 0 : lowest 0
> 
> ... Doug



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-25 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-16 15:15 x86_energy_perf_policy Doug Smythies
2020-06-25 15:27 ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2020-08-13 22:04   ` x86_energy_perf_policy Len Brown

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