From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
"Tomasz Figa" <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>,
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Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] iopoll: Do not use timekeeping in read_poll_timeout_atomic()
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 15:35:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <02ce0541-08cf-4e14-a9b1-c53efea85178@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8db63020d18fc22e137e4a8f0aa15e6b9949a6f6.1683722688.git.geert+renesas@glider.be>
On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 15:23, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> read_poll_timeout_atomic() uses ktime_get() to implement the timeout
> feature, just like its non-atomic counterpart. However, there are
> several issues with this, due to its use in atomic contexts:
>
> 1. When called in the s2ram path (as typically done by clock or PM
> domain drivers), timekeeping may be suspended, triggering the
> WARN_ON(timekeeping_suspended) in ktime_get():
>
> WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 654 at kernel/time/timekeeping.c:843 ktime_get+0x28/0x78
>
> Calling ktime_get_mono_fast_ns() instead of ktime_get() would get
> rid of that warning. However, that would break timeout handling,
> as (at least on systems with an ARM architectured timer), the time
> returned by ktime_get_mono_fast_ns() does not advance while
> timekeeping is suspended.
> Interestingly, (on the same ARM systems) the time returned by
> ktime_get() does advance while timekeeping is suspended, despite
> the warning.
>
> 2. Depending on the actual clock source, and especially before a
> high-resolution clocksource (e.g. the ARM architectured timer)
> becomes available, time may not advance in atomic contexts, thus
> breaking timeout handling.
>
> Fix this by abandoning the idea that one can rely on timekeeping to
> implement timeout handling in all atomic contexts, and switch from a
> global time-based to a locally-estimated timeout handling. In most
> (all?) cases the timeout condition is exceptional and an error
> condition, hence any additional delays due to underestimating wall clock
> time are irrelevant.
>
> Signed-off-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
This looks reasonable to me,
Acked-by: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
I assume you sent this because you ran into the bug on a
particular driver. It might help to be more specific about
how this can be reproduced.
> ---
> Alternatively, one could use a mixed approach (use both
> ktime_get_mono_fast_ns() and a local (under)estimate, and timeout on the
> earliest occasion), but I think that would complicate things without
> much gain.
Agreed.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-10 13:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-10 13:23 [PATCH v2 0/2] iopoll: Busy loop and timeout improvements Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] iopoll: Call cpu_relax() in busy loops Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 6:48 ` Tony Lindgren
2023-05-11 10:48 ` David Laight
2023-05-23 7:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-23 8:55 ` David Laight
2023-05-11 9:48 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-05-10 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] iopoll: Do not use timekeeping in read_poll_timeout_atomic() Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 13:35 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-05-10 13:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 13:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 6:48 ` Tony Lindgren
2023-05-11 10:26 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-05-11 12:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-12 7:53 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-05-12 8:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-15 9:26 ` Ulf Hansson
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