From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate runtime to reach given util
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 22:44:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16dcf2b6-6921-10c7-ae75-a9f8015a9c85@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bad29fb0-c734-853b-492b-ce2d01a293c5@arm.com>
On 06/09/2023 14:56, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 28/08/2023 01:31, Qais Yousef wrote:
>> It is basically the ramp-up time from 0 to a given value. Will be used
>> later to implement new tunable to control response time for schedutil.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Qais Yousef (Google) <qyousef@layalina.io>
>> ---
>> kernel/sched/pelt.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>> kernel/sched/sched.h | 1 +
>> 2 files changed, 22 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/pelt.c b/kernel/sched/pelt.c
>> index 50322005a0ae..f673b9ab92dc 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/pelt.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/pelt.c
>> @@ -487,3 +487,24 @@ unsigned long approximate_util_avg(unsigned long util, u64 delta)
>>
>> return sa.util_avg;
>> }
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * Approximate the required amount of runtime in ms required to reach @util.
>> + */
>> +u64 approximate_runtime(unsigned long util)
>> +{
>> + struct sched_avg sa = {};
>> + u64 delta = 1024; // period = 1024 = ~1ms
>> + u64 runtime = 0;
>> +
>> + if (unlikely(!util))
>> + return runtime;
>> +
>> + while (sa.util_avg < util) {
>> + accumulate_sum(delta, &sa, 0, 0, 1);
>> + ___update_load_avg(&sa, 0);
>> + runtime++;
>> + }
>> +
>> + return runtime;
>> +}
>
> S_n = S_inv * (1 - 0.5^(t/hl))
>
> t = hl * ln(1 - Sn/S_inv)/ln(0.5)
>
> (1) for a little CPU (capacity_orig = 446)
>
> t = 32ms * ln(1 - 446/1024)/ln(0.5)
>
> t = 26ms
>
> (2) for a big CPU (capacity = 1023 (*instead of 1024 since ln(0) not
> defined
>
> t = 32ms * ln(1 - 1023/1024)/ln(0.5)
>
> t = 320ms
Forgot half of what I wanted to ask:
And you want to be able to have a schedutil interface:
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy*/schedutil/response_time_ms
in which by default we have 26ms for a CPU with the capacity_orig of 446.
I.e. you want to have a time-based interface there? Which the user can
overwrite, say with 52ms and this then will lower the return value of
get_next_freq() so the system will respond slower?
And the time based interface is more intuitive than staying in the
capacity world of [0-1024]?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-06 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-27 23:31 [RFC PATCH 0/7] sched: cpufreq: Remove magic margins Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate the future util_avg value Qais Yousef
2023-09-06 12:56 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-06 21:19 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 11:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-10 19:58 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-13 17:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-16 19:49 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-16 19:52 ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/pelt: Add a new function to approximate runtime to reach given util Qais Yousef
2023-09-06 12:56 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-06 20:44 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-09-06 21:38 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-15 9:15 ` Hongyan Xia
2023-09-16 19:56 ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Remove magic margin in fits_capacity() Qais Yousef
2023-09-06 14:38 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-06 21:45 ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sched: cpufreq: Remove magic 1.25 headroom from apply_dvfs_headroom() Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-10 19:23 ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:32 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sched/schedutil: Add a new tunable to dictate response time Qais Yousef
2023-09-06 21:13 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-06 21:52 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-10 19:25 ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:32 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sched/pelt: Introduce PELT multiplier Qais Yousef
2023-08-27 23:32 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] cpufreq: Change default transition delay to 2ms Qais Yousef
2023-09-06 9:18 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] sched: cpufreq: Remove magic margins Lukasz Luba
2023-09-06 21:18 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 7:48 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-07 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 13:06 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-07 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 13:33 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-07 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 13:45 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-08 12:51 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2023-09-12 11:57 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-10 18:20 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-10 18:14 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 13:57 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-07 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-07 14:42 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-07 20:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 11:51 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-12 14:01 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-13 9:53 ` Lukasz Luba
2023-09-12 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-10 19:06 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-10 18:46 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 0:17 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-08 7:40 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-08 14:07 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-12 17:18 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-16 19:38 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-08 10:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 13:33 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-08 13:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 13:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 14:11 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-10 21:17 ` Qais Yousef
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