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From: Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linaro Kernel Mailman List <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we add Android's Interactive governor into mainline now?
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 23:14:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160513061438.GB28594@graphite.smuckle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160513032156.GE3415@vireshk-i7>

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 08:51:56AM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 12-05-16, 14:10, Steve Muckle wrote:
> > By far the biggest user of interactive is Android (I'm not aware of its
> > use elsewhere). Persuading Google to switch is relatively doable once a
> > viable alternative exists. After that point I'd expect the desire to
> > merge and maintain interactive would almost immediately disappear. Folks
> > wanting to run upstream kernels on already released devices have much
> > bigger hurdles than merging the interactive governor.
> > 
> > But if interactive is merged I'm worried that many other users on random
> > platforms will adopt it, for whatever reason, introducing a support
> > burden during a time that we're trying to develop and encourage an
> > alternative.
> 
> Lets assume that its going to take enough time for (specially) Android to start
> using the schedutil governor. That's how it works.

Perhaps I'm more optimistic about schedutil's swift adoption by Google
once it's reached feature parity with interactive.

> So, if we are worried about new users using it (who may not have a good reason
> to do that but did it by mistake), maybe we can make the interactive governor
> depend on CONFIG_ARM.

Is there precedent for putting in artificial dependencies (i.e. ones
with no real runtime technical justification) for this kind of purpose,
i.e. to limit who starts using a merged feature? It seems a bit messy to me.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-13  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-12  2:04 [RFC] Should we add Android's Interactive governor into mainline now? Viresh Kumar
2016-05-12 13:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-05-13  3:19   ` Viresh Kumar
2016-05-13 11:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-05-13 11:09       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-05-12 16:36 ` Steve Muckle
2016-05-12 20:34   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-05-12 21:10     ` Steve Muckle
2016-05-13  3:21       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-05-13  6:14         ` Steve Muckle [this message]
2016-05-13  6:17           ` Viresh Kumar
2016-05-13 11:44       ` Juri Lelli
2016-05-13 11:56         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-05-13 13:15           ` Juri Lelli

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