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From: WANG Chao <chao.wang@ucloud.cn>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Vikas Shivappa <vikas.shivappa@linux.intel.com>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
	Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: use cpufreq_quick_get() for /proc/cpuinfo "cpu MHz" again
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:11:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171110041135.GA28293@WANG-Chaos-MacBook-Pro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171110040400.GA97163@WANG-Chaos-MacBook-Pro.local>

On 11/10/17 at 12:04P, WANG Chao wrote:
> On 11/10/17 at 01:06P, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:30:54 PM CET Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki
> > > <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Linus,
> > > >
> > > > On 11/9/2017 11:38 AM, WANG Chao wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Commit 941f5f0f6ef5 (x86: CPU: Fix up "cpu MHz" in /proc/cpuinfo) caused
> > > >> a serious performance issue when reading from /proc/cpuinfo on system
> > > >> with aperfmperf.
> > > >>
> > > >> For each cpu, arch_freq_get_on_cpu() sleeps 20ms to get its frequency.
> > > >> On a system with 64 cpus, it takes 1.5s to finish running `cat
> > > >> /proc/cpuinfo`, while it previously was done in 15ms.
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, I'm not sure what to do to address this ATM.
> > > >
> > > > The last requested frequency is only available in the non-HWP case, so it
> > > > cannot be used universally.
> > > 
> > > OK, here's an idea.
> > > 
> > > c_start() can run aperfmperf_snapshot_khz() on all CPUs upfront (say
> > > in parallel), then wait for a while (say 5 ms; the current 20 ms wait
> > > is overkill) and then aperfmperf_snapshot_khz() can be run once on
> > > each CPU in show_cpuinfo() without taking the "stale cache" threshold
> > > into account.
> > > 
> > > I'm going to try that and see how far I can get with it.
> > 
> > Below is what I have.
> > 
> > I ended up using APERFMPERF_REFRESH_DELAY_MS for the delay in
> > aperfmperf_snapshot_all(), because 5 ms tended to add too much
> > variation to the results on my test box.
> > 
> > I think it may be reduced to 10 ms, though.
> > 
> > Chao, can you please try this one and report back?
> 
> Hi, Rafael
> 
> Thanks for the patch. But it doesn't work for me. lscpu takes 1.5s to
> finish on a 64 cpus AMD box with aperfmperf.
> 
> You missed the fact that c_start() will also be called by c_next().
> 
> But I don't think the overall idea is good enough. I think /proc/cpuinfo
> is too general for usespace too be delayed, no matter it's 10ms or 20ms.
> 
> My point is cpu MHz is best to use a cached value for quick access. If
> people are looking for reliable and accurate cpu frequency,
> /proc/cpuinfo is probably a bad idae.
> 
> What do you think?

Could you also explain 941f5f0f6ef5 (x86: CPU: Fix up "cpu MHz" in
/proc/cpuinfo) please? The commit message is not clear for me.

Are there any upstream disscutions? I wasn't following this change in
upstream. Now I can't find any.

Thanks,
WANG Chao

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-10  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20171109103814.70688-1-chao.wang@ucloud.cn>
2017-11-09 16:06 ` [PATCH] x86: use cpufreq_quick_get() for /proc/cpuinfo "cpu MHz" again Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-09 22:30   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-10  0:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-10  4:04       ` WANG Chao
2017-11-10  4:11         ` WANG Chao [this message]
2017-11-10 19:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-10 23:09       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-14 22:47         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-14 23:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-14 23:53             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-15  0:04               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-15  0:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-15  0:30                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-15  0:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-15  1:13                       ` [PATCH] x86 / CPU: Always show current CPU frequency in /proc/cpuinfo Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-15  8:47                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-15  9:33                         ` WANG Chao
2017-11-16  0:24                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-16  9:50                             ` WANG Chao
2017-11-16 13:54                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-17  4:27                                 ` WANG Chao
2017-11-17 13:33                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-15  7:43                     ` [PATCH] x86: use cpufreq_quick_get() for /proc/cpuinfo "cpu MHz" again Ingo Molnar
2017-11-15  7:54                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-11-15 17:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-15 18:05                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-15  8:47                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-15  0:06               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-10  7:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-10  9:21     ` WANG Chao

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