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From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: Ognjen Galic <smclt30p@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andy Shevchenko" <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Robert Moore" <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	"Lv Zheng" <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"ACPI Devel Maling List" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@acpica.org, "Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@infradead.org>,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <ibm-acpi@hmh.eng.br>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Platform Driver" <platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Böhmwalder" <christoph@boehmwalder.at>,
	"Kevin Locke" <kevin@kevinlocke.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 4/4] battery: Add the ThinkPad "Not Charging" quirk
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 08:45:30 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180209104530.s5i6lymcpgkqyego@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180207145936.ockmmkipxtwkdsot@thinkpad>

On Wed, 07 Feb 2018, Ognjen Galic wrote:
> The EC/ACPI firmware on Lenovo ThinkPads used to report a status
> of "Unknown" when the battery is between the charge start and
> charge stop thresholds. On Windows, it reports "Not Charging"
> so the quirk has been added to also report correctly.
> 
> Now the "status" attribute returns "Not Charging" when the
> battery on ThinkPads is not physicaly charging.
> 
> Reviewed-by: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Ognjen Galic <smclt30p@gmail.com>

AFAIK, This behavior goes back to the initial SBS implementation in the
IBM era ECs of the Thinkpads...  We've always called it "idle" in the
linux-thinkpad community.  The behavior comes from SBS
(http://smartbattery.org/specs/), the EC was reporting its status
(charging/not charging *THIS* battery) in one bit, and the battery's
status (discharging/not discharging *THIS* battery) in a different bit.

It was rather simple to observe the behavior of those bits in a
two-battery system.

Would that apply to these newer Lenovo models?  If so, you might want to
consider using "idle", instead. "not charging" does _not_ imply "neither
charging nor discharging", while "idle" does.

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-09 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-07 14:59 [PATCH v13 4/4] battery: Add the ThinkPad "Not Charging" quirk Ognjen Galic
2018-02-09 10:45 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [this message]
2018-02-09 13:26   ` Sebastian Reichel
2018-02-10  8:47     ` Ognjen Galić

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