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From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] sched: cpufreq: Fix apply_dvfs_headroom() escaping uclamp constraints
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:08:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230826200829.gnha7xcrjbyipjr2@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7839dd5f-e7fd-7065-934d-436d012ac9d6@arm.com>

On 08/21/23 18:39, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 20/08/2023 23:06, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > DVFS headroom is applied after we calculate the effective_cpu_util()
> > which is where we honour uclamp constraints. It makes more sense to
> > apply the headroom there once and let all users naturally get the right
> > thing without having to sprinkle the call around in various places.
> 
> uclamp is applied in effective_cpu_util(..., FREQUENCY_UTIL, ...) which
> IMHO currently has 2 power callers: (1) schedutil: sugov_get_util() and
> (2) EAS: eenv_pd_max_util()
> 
> > Before this fix running
> > 
> > 	uclampset -M 800 cat /dev/zero > /dev/null
> > 
> > Will cause the test system to run at max freq of 2.8GHz. After the fix
> > it runs at 2.2GHz instead which is the correct value that matches the
> > capacity of 800.
> 
> IMHO, a system at util = 800 (w/o uclamp) would also run at 2.8Ghz since
> we would call map_util_to_perf() on 800, no matter from where we call it.

Sorry, I would very strongly disagree here. What you're saying the effective
range of uclamp_max is 800 and anything above that will always go to max. How
can this be acceptable?

> 
> > Note that similar problem exist for uclamp_min. If util was 50, and
> > uclamp_min is 100. Since we apply_dvfs_headroom() after apply uclamp
> > constraints, we'll end up with util of 125 instead of 100. IOW, we get
> > boosted twice, first time by uclamp_min, and second time by dvfs
> > headroom.
> 
> I see what you want to change here but:
> 
> So far we have `util -> uclamp -> map_util_to_perf()`

:-O

So when I set the system uclamp_max to 800 it will still run at max; and this
is normal?!!

> 
> which is fine when we see uclamp as an entity which constrains util, not
> the util after being mapped to a capacity constraint.

-ENOPARSE.


Cheers

--
Qais Yousef

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-26 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-20 21:06 [PATCH 0/4] Fix dvfs_headroom escaping uclamp constraints Qais Yousef
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: cpufreq: Rename map_util_perf to apply_dvfs_headroom Qais Yousef
2023-08-20 21:13   ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:38   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-26 20:03     ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: cpufreq: Fix apply_dvfs_headroom() escaping uclamp constraints Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:39   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-26 20:08     ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2023-09-12 14:34       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-16 20:30         ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-29 14:35   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-29 16:37     ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 13:47       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-07 21:55         ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-08 14:30           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-10 17:46             ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-12 13:40               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-16 19:25                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-12 16:03               ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-16 19:25                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-24  7:58                   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-24 17:23                     ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-28 17:50                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-28 22:05                         ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-29  8:01                           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: cpufreq: Move apply_dvfs_headroom() to sched.h Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:40   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] sched: cpufreq: Apply DVFS headroom to CFS only Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:41   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-26 20:27     ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 10:34 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix dvfs_headroom escaping uclamp constraints Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-26 19:17   ` Qais Yousef

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