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From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] sched: cpufreq: Fix apply_dvfs_headroom() escaping uclamp constraints
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 20:25:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230916192526.gd2kevpq5okondjm@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <979a9e2f-06a8-1936-b5cd-2949eca99b21@arm.com>

On 09/12/23 15:40, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 10/09/2023 19:46, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > On 09/08/23 16:30, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > 
> 
> [...]
> 
> >>>> above 512 whatever the current (720)  formula or your proposal (608).
> >>>> In the case of uclamp, it should be applied after having been scaled
> >>>> by irq time.
> >>>
> >>> I lost you a bit here. I'm not sure how you reached the 720 and 608 numbers.
> >>
> >> My bad, I finally decided to use an irq pressure of 128 in my
> >> calculation but forgot to change the value in my email
> >>
> >>>
> >>> So the way I'm proposing it here
> >>>
> >>>         util = cfs + rt + dvfs_headroom(cfs+rt) = 800 + 0.25 * 800 = 1000
> >>>         util = uclamp_rq_util_with(rq, util, NULL) = 512
> >>>         util = scale_rq_capacity(512, 256, 1024) = 0.75 * 512 = 384
> >>>         util += dvfs_headroom(irq) = 384 + 256 + 0.25 * 256 = 704
> >>>         util += dvfs_headroom(dl_bw) = 704
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So we should have reported utilization of 720 with a bandwidth
> >>>> requirement of 512 and then cpufreq can applies its headroom if needed
> >>>
> >>> The key part I'm changing is this
> >>>
> >>>         util = cfs + rt + dvfs_headroom(cfs+rt) = 800 + 0.25 * 800 = 1000
> >>>         util = uclamp_rq_util_with(rq, util, NULL) = 512
> >>>
> >>> Before we had (assume irq, rt and dl are 0 for simplicity and a single task is
> >>> running)
> >>>
> >>>         util = cfs = 800
> >>>         util = uclamp_rq_util_with(rq, util, NULL) = 512
> >>>         util = dvfs_headroom(util) = 512 * 0.25 * 512 = 640
> >>>
> >>> So we are running higher than we are allowed to. So applying the headroom
> >>> after taking uclamp constraints into account is the problem.
> 
> I'm not sure I understood all the example math in this thread correctly:
> 
> Examples:
> 
> irq = 128 or 256
> 
> util = 800 uclamp = 512
> 
> 
> --- current code:
> 
> ((util_cfs + util_rt) * ((max - irq) / max) + irq + dl_bw) * scale
> 
> <- uclamped(cfs+rt) ->
> 
> <--               scale_irq_capacity()                  -->|<-- map_util_perf() 
>                                                                / (headroom())  
> 
> irq = 128: (512 * (1024 - 128) / 1024 + 128 + 0) * 1.25 = 576 * 1.25 = 720
> 
> irq = 256: (512 * (1024 - 256) / 1024 + 256 + 0) * 1.25 = 640 * 1.25 = 800
> 
> 
> --- new approach:
> 
> irq = 128: (512 * (1024 - 128) / 1024 + 128 + 0.25 * 128)            = 608
> 
> irq = 256: (512 * (1024 - 256) / 1024 + 256 + 0.25 * 256)            = 704
> 
>             <->
>             uclamped(cfs+rt+headroom(cfs+rt))
> 
>             <- scale_irq_capacity() ->
> 
>             <--               headroom(irq) ?        -->
> 
> 
> Is the correct?

Yes, this is my understanding too. But I'm not sure anymore as it seems I'm
missing something from what Vincent is saying.


Thanks!

--
Qais Yousef

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-16 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-20 21:06 [PATCH 0/4] Fix dvfs_headroom escaping uclamp constraints Qais Yousef
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: cpufreq: Rename map_util_perf to apply_dvfs_headroom Qais Yousef
2023-08-20 21:13   ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:38   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-26 20:03     ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: cpufreq: Fix apply_dvfs_headroom() escaping uclamp constraints Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:39   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-26 20:08     ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-12 14:34       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-16 20:30         ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-29 14:35   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-29 16:37     ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-07 13:47       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-07 21:55         ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-08 14:30           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-10 17:46             ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-12 13:40               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-09-16 19:25                 ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2023-09-12 16:03               ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-16 19:25                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-24  7:58                   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-24 17:23                     ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-28 17:50                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-09-28 22:05                         ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-29  8:01                           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: cpufreq: Move apply_dvfs_headroom() to sched.h Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:40   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-20 21:06 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] sched: cpufreq: Apply DVFS headroom to CFS only Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 16:41   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-08-26 20:27     ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 10:34 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix dvfs_headroom escaping uclamp constraints Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-26 19:17   ` Qais Yousef

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