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From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] sched/idle: Make default_idle_call() NOHZ aware
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 15:14:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260310151401.r4ty2scfyyxxnyhl@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0gDxG5XoV6P+be84gfFjqLc2pmuJJpbtZOY=2_fOpQbwg@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/10/26 16:09, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 4:03 PM Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
> >
> > On 03/10/26 09:18, Christian Loehle wrote:
> > > On 3/10/26 03:54, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > > > On 03/07/26 17:25, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> In the meantime I realized that if the .select() governor
> > > >> callback is skipped, its .reflect() callback should be skipped
> > > >> either, so I've posted this:
> > > >>
> > > >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2026/3/7/569
> > > >>
> > > >> and here's a fixed version of the last patch on top of the above (for
> > > >> completeness):
> > > >>
> > > >> ---
> > > >>  kernel/sched/idle.c |   25 ++++++++++++++++---------
> > > >>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > > >>
> > > >> --- a/kernel/sched/idle.c
> > > >> +++ b/kernel/sched/idle.c
> > > >> @@ -161,6 +161,14 @@ static int call_cpuidle(struct cpuidle_d
> > > >>    return cpuidle_enter(drv, dev, next_state);
> > > >>  }
> > > >>
> > > >> +static void idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(bool stop_tick)
> > > >> +{
> > > >> +  if (stop_tick || tick_nohz_tick_stopped())
> > > >> +          tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
> > > >> +  else
> > > >> +          tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
> > > >> +}
> > > >> +
> > > >>  /**
> > > >>   * cpuidle_idle_call - the main idle function
> > > >>   *
> > > >> @@ -170,7 +178,7 @@ static int call_cpuidle(struct cpuidle_d
> > > >>   * set, and it returns with polling set.  If it ever stops polling, it
> > > >>   * must clear the polling bit.
> > > >>   */
> > > >> -static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
> > > >> +static void cpuidle_idle_call(bool stop_tick)
> > > >>  {
> > > >>    struct cpuidle_device *dev = cpuidle_get_device();
> > > >>    struct cpuidle_driver *drv = cpuidle_get_cpu_driver(dev);
> > > >> @@ -186,7 +194,7 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
> > > >>    }
> > > >>
> > > >>    if (cpuidle_not_available(drv, dev)) {
> > > >> -          tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
> > > >> +          idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
> > > >>
> > > >>            default_idle_call();
> > > >>            goto exit_idle;
> > > >> @@ -222,17 +230,14 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
> > > >>            next_state = cpuidle_find_deepest_state(drv, dev, max_latency_ns);
> > > >>            call_cpuidle(drv, dev, next_state);
> > > >>    } else if (drv->state_count > 1) {
> > > >> -          bool stop_tick = true;
> > > >> +          stop_tick = true;
> > > >
> > > > Silly question, but wouldn't this benefit the normal path too to delay for one
> > > > tick? This will only matter for the cases where the governor doesn't explicitly
> > > > set stop_tick to either true or false - which I am not sure what they are :)
> > > >
> > > Right now the governors will always set stop_tick explicitly (and overriding
> > > that might confuse the governor-internal state).
> >
> > So we can drop this hunk then
> 
> Not really.
> 
> The governors expect that stop_tick is true by default and they clear
> it if needed/desired.  They may be confused if it is false to start
> with (theoretically, a governor may select an idle state with target
> residency beyond the tick period length then which won't make sense).

I see, thanks for the explanation. It could be me, but if you think a comment
is worthwhile to document this expectation, would be nice to have.

LGTM anyway.

Cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-10 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260301191959.406218221@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <CAJZ5v0h-bGU34d9OnhYqdzz+5UiKV1rBEB9NS-TL4=sK2jf-LQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20260304030306.uk5c63xw4oqvjffb@airbuntu>
2026-03-06 21:21     ` [patch 2/2] sched/idle: Make default_idle_call() NOHZ aware Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-06 21:31       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-07 16:25         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-10  3:54           ` Qais Yousef
2026-03-10  9:18             ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-10 15:03               ` Qais Yousef
2026-03-10 15:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-10 15:14                   ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2026-03-07 16:12     ` [PATCH v1] sched: idle: Make skipping governor callbacks more consistent Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-09  9:13       ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-09 12:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-10  3:57           ` Qais Yousef
2026-03-09 12:44       ` Aboorva Devarajan
2026-03-10 14:28       ` Frederic Weisbecker

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