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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Sibi Sankar <sibi.sankar@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	rafael@kernel.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ionela Voinescu <Ionela.Voinescu@arm.com>,
	Beata Michalska <Beata.Michalska@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/cpufreq: Update schedutil's DVFS request to reach the boost frequencies
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 10:02:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a4be9a1-4b00-49c4-bdbf-649268e78c7a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806044230.909961-3-sibi.sankar@oss.qualcomm.com>

On 8/6/26 05:42, Sibi Sankar wrote:
> capacity_freq_ref, exposed to schedutil via get_capacity_ref_freq(),
> was introduced by commit 9942cb22ea45 ("sched/topology: Add a new
> arch_scale_freq_ref() method") as a fixed anchor that does not move at
> runtime. However, schedutil uses that same fixed anchor as the reference
> plugged into map_util_freq() which saturates exactly at capacity_freq_ref.
> 
> As a result, a system with cpufreq boost enabled effectively never runs at
> boost frequencies under schedutil-governed load. Fix this by plugging in
> policy-max into the map_util_freq equation, so that the DVFS requests
> translates to the actual cpufreq driver ceiling.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Sibi Sankar <sibi.sankar@oss.qualcomm.com>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c | 13 ++++++++++---
>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> index a1782755efcc..dcefbeaa0702 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> @@ -195,10 +195,17 @@ static unsigned int get_next_freq(struct sugov_policy *sg_policy,
>  				  unsigned long util, unsigned long max)
>  {
>  	struct cpufreq_policy *policy = sg_policy->policy;
> -	unsigned int freq;
> +	unsigned int freq, ref;
>  
> -	freq = get_capacity_ref_freq(policy);
> -	freq = map_util_freq(util, freq, max);
> +	ref = get_capacity_ref_freq(policy);
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * That fixed anchor governs how utilization is interpreted, but
> +	 * the DVFS request is free to target the current policy ceiling.
> +	 * Using ref alone would saturate the util->freq map at ref so
> +	 * use policy->max to reach boost frequencies.

I'm not sure those two statements are compatible with the implementation below?
util / max is expressed in the capacity scale established using ref, multiplying
that ratio by policy->max changes the interpretation of every util value.


> +	 */
> +	freq = map_util_freq(util, max(ref, READ_ONCE(policy->max)), max);

Isn't the underlying problem that schedutil can't handle requests above capacity 1024?

effective_cpu_util() caps util at max, and sugov_effective_cpu_perf() applies
the 25% headroom before clipping the result back to that same value.
Therefore the input here cannot exceed 1024, and mapping it against ref
can never request a frequency above ref.
Using policy->max makes boost reachable, but also stretches the complete frequency range.
For example, with ref = 4454400, policy->max = 4723200, and effective util 640, the request
changes from 2784000 to 2952000.

Making 'boost frequencies' truly compatible with schedutil (or PELT/CAS for that matter)
is a discussion that is yet to be had?
See also
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250626093018.106265-1-dietmar.eggemann@arm.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-06  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-06  4:42 [PATCH 0/2] sched/cpufreq: Fix schedutil's boost frequency handling Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06  4:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] cpufreq: allow cpuinfo max to decrease when boost is disabled Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06  9:28   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-06 10:11     ` Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06 12:12       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-07 12:12         ` Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06 11:22   ` Zhongqiu Han
2026-08-07 14:23     ` Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06  4:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/cpufreq: Update schedutil's DVFS request to reach the boost frequencies Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06  9:02   ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2026-08-06 15:13     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-08-07 14:41       ` Sibi Sankar
2026-08-06 15:09   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-08-07 14:32     ` Sibi Sankar

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