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From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
Cc: "Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Srinivas Kandagatla" <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	"Benson Leung" <bleung@chromium.org>,
	"Tzung-Bi Shih" <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	"Ahmad Fatoum" <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, "Søren Andersen" <san@skov.dk>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <groeck@chromium.org>,
	"Zhang Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Lukasz Luba" <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/7] power: reset: Introduce PSCR Recording Framework for Non-Volatile Storage
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 14:19:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9ly2eC0_r3gyToy@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea681b76-db1c-4529-bd53-09e4bf384977@gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 01:01:30PM +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
> On 18/03/2025 11:47, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> > This commit introduces the Power State Change Reasons Recording (PSCRR)
> > framework into the kernel. The framework is vital for systems where
> > PMICs or watchdogs cannot provide information on power state changes. It
> > stores reasons for system shutdowns and reboots, like under-voltage or
> > software-triggered events, in non-volatile hardware storage. This
> > approach is essential for postmortem analysis in scenarios where
> > traditional storage methods (block devices, RAM) are not feasible. The
> > framework aids bootloaders and early-stage system components in recovery
> > decision-making, although it does not cover resets caused by hardware
> > issues like system freezes or watchdog timeouts.
> 
> We might want to rephrase this if we envision that boot reason could be read
> from PMICs (or other devices able to store the boot reason) using PSCRR
> interface. (Because a few PMICs can store the boot reason even for the
> hardware initiated shutdowns like Watchdog or voltage/current protection).

ack.

> > It is primarily intended for controlled power
> > +	  state transitions.
> > +
> > +	  If unsure, say N.
> > diff --git a/drivers/power/reset/Makefile b/drivers/power/reset/Makefile
> > index 10782d32e1da..dbd6ae6b26a4 100644
> > --- a/drivers/power/reset/Makefile
> > +++ b/drivers/power/reset/Makefile
> > @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_POWER_RESET_KEYSTONE) += keystone-reset.o
> >   obj-$(CONFIG_POWER_RESET_SYSCON) += syscon-reboot.o
> >   obj-$(CONFIG_POWER_RESET_SYSCON_POWEROFF) += syscon-poweroff.o
> >   obj-$(CONFIG_POWER_RESET_RMOBILE) += rmobile-reset.o
> > +obj-$(CONFIG_PSCRR) += pscrr.o
> >   obj-$(CONFIG_REBOOT_MODE) += reboot-mode.o
> >   obj-$(CONFIG_SYSCON_REBOOT_MODE) += syscon-reboot-mode.o
> >   obj-$(CONFIG_POWER_RESET_SC27XX) += sc27xx-poweroff.o
> > diff --git a/drivers/power/reset/pscrr.c b/drivers/power/reset/pscrr.c
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..466eca0e4f7f
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/drivers/power/reset/pscrr.c
> > @@ -0,0 +1,417 @@
> > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +/*
> > + * pscrr_core.c - Core Power State Change Reason Recording
> > + *
> > + * This framework provides a method for recording the cause of the last system
> > + * reboot, particularly in scenarios where **hardware protection events** (e.g.,
> > + * undervoltage, overcurrent, thermal shutdown) force an immediate reset.
> 
> Is this contradicting the Kconfig / commit message?

There is so many redundant text, i already lost track of it.  What do
you mean?

> 
> > Unlike
> > + * traditional logging mechanisms that rely on block storage (e.g., NAND, eMMC),
> > + * PSCRR ensures shutdown reasons are preserved in a way that survives power
> > + * loss for later analysis.
> 
> Here, the 'level of power-loss' plays a role, right? I assume some level of
> power must be retained for the 'storage' to stay alive.

Yes, on the system I'm working on, there is designed capacity and
voltage drop detector to do $THINGS before the system will go off. To
get the full picture you may take a look to following patches:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231026144824.4065145-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250310102229.381887-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-18 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-18  9:47 [PATCH v7 0/7] Introduction of PSCR Framework and Related Components Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] power: Extend power_on_reason.h for upcoming PSCRR framework Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] reboot: hw_protection_trigger: use standardized numeric shutdown/reboot reasons instead of strings Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18 11:26   ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-18 12:20   ` Mark Brown
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] power: reset: Introduce PSCR Recording Framework for Non-Volatile Storage Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18 11:01   ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-18 13:19     ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2025-03-18 13:37       ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] nvmem: provide consumer access to cell size metrics Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] nvmem: add support for device and sysfs-based cell lookups Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] power: reset: add PSCR NVMEM Driver for Recording Power State Change Reasons Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18  9:47 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] Documentation: Add sysfs documentation for PSCRR reboot reason tracking Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18 11:17   ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-03-18 11:24     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-03-18 11:27       ` Matti Vaittinen

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