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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, agk@redhat.com, snitzer@kernel.org,
	song@kernel.org, yukuai3@huawei.com, hch@lst.de,
	nilay@linux.ibm.com, dm-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] block: use chunk_sectors when evaluating stacked atomic write limits
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 14:16:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4098ac0d-1558-4ca5-a873-275e6630ea40@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq1a55edu8i.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com>

On 09/07/2025 02:39, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
>> For io_min/opt, maybe reduce to a factor of the stripe size / width
>> (and which fits in a unsigned int).
>>
>> I am not sure if it is even sane to have such huge values in io_min
>> and the bottom disk io_min should be used directly instead.
> 
> The intent for io_min was to convey the physical_block_size in the case
> of an individual drive. And for it to be set to the stripe chunk size in
> stacking scenarios that would otherwise involve read-modify-write (i.e.
> RAID5 and RAID6).

And the same is done for md raid0/dm stripe; I suppose that the idea is 
to encourage larger than chunk size writes to see the performance 
advantage in striping.

 > > io_opt was meant to communicate the stripe width. Reporting very large
> values for io_opt is generally counterproductive since we can't write
> multiple gigabytes in a single operation anyway.
>

Right, and so it seems counterproductive to have chunk size much bigger 
than bottom device io_opt

> logical <= physical <= io_min <= io_opt <= max_sectors <= max_hw_sectors
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-09 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-03 11:46 [PATCH v3 0/5] block/md/dm: set chunk_sectors from stacked dev stripe size John Garry
2025-07-03 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] block: sanitize chunk_sectors for atomic write limits John Garry
2025-07-03 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] md/raid0: set chunk_sectors limit John Garry
2025-07-03 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] md/raid10: " John Garry
2025-07-03 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] dm-stripe: limit chunk_sectors to the stripe size John Garry
2025-07-03 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] block: use chunk_sectors when evaluating stacked atomic write limits John Garry
2025-07-03 13:31   ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-07-03 14:17     ` John Garry
2025-07-03 15:36       ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-07-03 16:01         ` John Garry
2025-07-09  1:39           ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-07-09 13:16             ` John Garry [this message]
2025-07-21 14:09             ` John Garry
2025-07-22  3:43               ` Martin K. Petersen

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