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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] RDMA/core: remove use of dma_virt_ops
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:09:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201104180912.GS36674@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201104163135.GA15840@lst.de>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 05:31:35PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 11:52:55AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > It could work, I think a resonable ULP API would be to have some
> > 
> >  rdma_fill_ib_sge_from_sgl()
> >  rdma_map_sge_single()
> >  etc etc
> > 
> > ie instead of wrappering the DMA API as-is we have a new API that
> > directly builds the ib_sge. It always fills the local_dma_lkey from
> > the pd, so it knows it is doing DMA from local kernel memory.
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> > Logically SW devices then have a local_dma_lkey MR that has an IOVA of
> > the CPU physical address space, not the DMA address space as HW
> > devices have. The ib_sge builders can know this detail and fill in
> > addr from either a cpu phyical or a dma map.
> 
> I don't think the builders are the right place to do it - it really
> should to be in the low-level drivers for a bunch of reasons:

At this point we have little choice, the ULP is responsible for
map/unmap because the ULP owns the CQ and (batch) unmap is triggered
by some CQE.

Reworking all drivers to somehow keep track of unmaps a CQEs triggers
feels so hard at this point as to be impossible. It is why the
rdma_rw_ctx basically exists.

So we have to keep the current arrangment, when the ib_sge is built
the dma map must be conditionally done.

>  1) this avoids doing the dma_map when no DMA is performed, e.g. for
>     mlx5 when send data is in the extended WQE

At least in the kernel, the ULP has to be involved today in
IB_SEND_INLINE. Userspace does an auto-copy, but that is because it
doesn't have dma map/unmap. 

Without unmap tracking as above the caller must supply a specially
formed ib_sge when using IB_SEND_INLINE that specifies the CPU vaddr
so memcpy works.

But this all looks like dead code, no ULP sets IB_SEND_INLINE ??

>  2) to deal with the fact that dma mapping reduces the number of SGEs.
>     When the system uses a modern IOMMU we'll always end up with a
>     single IOVA range no matter how many pages were mapped originally.
>     This means any MR process can actually be consolidated to use
>     a single SGE with the local lkey.

Any place like rdma_rw_ctx_init() that decides dynamically between SGE
and MR becomes a mess. It would be manageable if rdma_rw_ctx_init()
was the only place doing this..

I haven't looked lately, but I wonder if it is feasible that all the
MR users would use this API?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-04 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04  9:50 remove dma_virt_ops Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04  9:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] RDMA/core: remove ib_dma_{alloc,free}_coherent Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04  9:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] RDMA/core: remove use of dma_virt_ops Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04 13:42   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-04 14:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04 15:09       ` Bernard Metzler
2020-11-04 18:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-04 15:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-04 16:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04 18:09           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-11-04  9:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] PCI/p2p: remove the DMA_VIRT_OPS hacks Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04 16:53   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-11-04 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-04  9:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] PCI/p2p: cleanup up __pci_p2pdma_map_sg a bit Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-04 16:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-11-04  9:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] dma-mapping: remove dma_virt_ops Christoph Hellwig

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