From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Cheng Xu <chengyou@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, KaiShen@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-next v2 1/4] RDMA/erdma: Support non-contiguous kernel QP buffers
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:47:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260918124759.GX13683@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1d33bae-f016-5928-197f-817e1017a345@linux.alibaba.com>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 10:41:52AM +0800, Cheng Xu wrote:
>
>
> On 9/10/26 11:33 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 02:21:37PM +0800, Cheng Xu wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/3/26 8:38 PM, Cheng Xu wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/3/26 5:10 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 04:25:20PM +0800, Cheng Xu wrote:
> >>>>> A single coherent allocation for kernel QP queues can fail for large
> >>>>> queues when memory is fragmented.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Allocate page-sized coherent buffers and describe them with the existing
> >>>>> MTT. Keep the userspace QP path unchanged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Cheng Xu <chengyou@linux.alibaba.com>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/erdma/erdma_cq.c | 4 +-
> >>>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/erdma/erdma_qp.c | 38 +++--
> >>>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/erdma/erdma_verbs.c | 195 +++++++++++++---------
> >>>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/erdma/erdma_verbs.h | 44 ++++-
> >>>>> 4 files changed, 179 insertions(+), 102 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> <...>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> <...>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>> +struct erdma_buf_list {
> >>>>> + void *buf;
> >>>>> + dma_addr_t dma_addr;
> >>>>> +};
> >>>>
> >>>> This struct is very similar to scatter-gather list, why don't you use it
> >>>> directly?
> >>>
> >>> Good idea. I will use struct scatterlist in the next revision.
> >>
> >> Hi Leon,
> >>
> >> I switched to scatterlist in v3, but Sashiko pointed out an issue with
> >> using sg_set_buf() and sg_virt() on dma_alloc_coherent() memory [1].
> >>
> >> To handle this correctly, the driver would still need to retain the
> >> original CPU addresses returned by dma_alloc_coherent(). Using scatterlist
> >> does not simplify this implementation: we still need separate storage for
> >> the CPU addresses, and the only scatterlist field we actually need is the
> >> DMA address. A small structure holding both addresses would therefore be
> >> simpler.
> >
> > Sashiko thinks that you are creating SG list to feed it to dma_map_sg()
> > later which is not. You are using SG as simple database and you will get
> > iterators for free.
> >
> > cpu_address = sg_page()
> > dma_address = sg_dma_address()
> >
>
> Hi Leon,
>
> Maybe I misunderstood something. My understanding of Sashiko's concern is
> that the CPU address returned by dma_alloc_coherent() is not guaranteed to
> be valid for virt_to_page(), as used by sg_set_buf(). Consequently, the
> struct page later returned by sg_page() may be invalid.
>
> Although this works on the x86 platforms we tested, it may not be portable
> to architectures where coherent memory is remapped outside the linear
> mapping. From this perspective, would a small structure that explicitly
> stores the CPU and DMA addresses, similar to those used by HNS and mlx5, be
> more appropriate than scatterlist here?
Yes, let's use them directly, without SG. Sorry for the confusion in my
previous comment.
Thanks
>
> I collected some information related to this below [1][2][3].
>
> [1] include/linux/scatterlist.h:
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_SG
> BUG_ON(!virt_addr_valid(buf));
> #endif
> sg_set_page(sg, virt_to_page(buf), buflen, offset_in_page(buf));
>
> [2] kernel/dma/mapping.c:
>
> /*
> * The whole dma_get_sgtable() idea is fundamentally unsafe ...
> * 1. Not all memory allocated via the coherent DMA APIs is backed by
> * a struct page
> */
>
> [3] drivers/infiniband/hw/mthca/mthca_memfree.c:
>
> /* We use sg_set_buf for coherent allocs, which assumes low memory */
I wouldn't hold my breath about the validity of that comment. It was written
a long time ago.
>
> Thanks,
> Cheng Xu
>
>
> > Thanks
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-18 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-27 8:25 [PATCH for-next v2 0/4] RDMA/erdma: Support non-contiguous kernel queue buffers Cheng Xu
2026-08-27 8:25 ` [PATCH for-next v2 1/4] RDMA/erdma: Support non-contiguous kernel QP buffers Cheng Xu
2026-09-03 9:10 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-03 12:38 ` Cheng Xu
2026-09-09 6:21 ` Cheng Xu
2026-09-10 15:33 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-11 2:41 ` Cheng Xu
2026-09-18 12:47 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2026-09-23 10:17 ` Cheng Xu
2026-08-27 8:25 ` [PATCH for-next v2 2/4] RDMA/erdma: Support non-contiguous kernel CQ buffers Cheng Xu
2026-08-27 8:25 ` [PATCH for-next v2 3/4] RDMA/erdma: Unify userspace and kernel queue buffer management Cheng Xu
2026-09-03 9:12 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-03 12:40 ` Cheng Xu
2026-08-27 8:25 ` [PATCH for-next v2 4/4] RDMA/erdma: Move kernel QP helpers after memory helpers Cheng Xu
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