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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, sumit.semwal@linaro.org,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
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	"Dongwon Kim" <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
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	"Xu Yilun" <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Karl Mehltretter" <kmehltretter@gmail.com>,
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	"Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 23/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_attach()
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 15:54:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43a20d60-89a9-48fc-af73-5907b35a54d7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261027144459.GC2338330@nvidia.com>

On 10/27/26 15:44, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 03:28:44PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>> On 10/27/26 15:08, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 02:17:16PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>>>> On 10/27/26 13:38, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 01:07:36PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/26/26 06:36, Alistair Popple wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This attach function always creates a SGT mapping type importer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah that is a clear NO-GO. The attachment should be the same for
>>>>>> the new interface as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure I understand this comment...
>>>>>
>>>>> This was intended as a helper so that existing drivers can run through
>>>>> the sgt based mapping type flow without having to open code it. It is
>>>>> hardwired to only do sgt like this. If you want to use more than sgt
>>>>> as your mapping type don't use this function
>>>>>
>>>>> The point was to create a clear distinction in the API names when
>>>>> things were in a SGT-only flow vs using the newer negotiable flow.
>>>>
>>>> Well that is my point, the dma_buf_attach() or rather
>>>> dynamic_attach() function should still be part of the new flow.
>>>
>>> It is, this is just a helper wrapper effectively to run the flow
>>> exactly as it is right now wired to only do sgt.
>>>
>>> Unless you want to see that open coded in ever driver using the more
>>> general functions, I'm not sure I see the alternative?
>>
>> I still don't see what you mean.
> 
> The function is this:
> 
> struct dma_buf_attachment *dma_buf_sgt_attach(struct dma_buf *dmabuf,
> 					      struct device *dev)
> {
> 	struct dma_buf_mapping_match sgt_match[] = {
> 		DMA_BUF_IMAPPING_SGT(dev, DMA_SGT_NO_P2P),
> 	};
> 
> 	return dma_buf_mapping_attach(dmabuf, sgt_match, ARRAY_SIZE(sgt_match),
> 				      NULL, NULL);

Yeah. exactly that is a clear NO-GO from my side.

The existing dma_buf_dynamic_attach() function should already have everything you need to negotiate the mapping type.

Don't add any new dma_buf_mapping_attach() function since attachments are generally not mapping related.

Regards,
Christian.


> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(dma_buf_sgt_attach, "DMA_BUF");
> 
> Which is just a wrapper around the more general attach function,
> forcing it to do SGT.
> 
> I don't see why we should label a function that can ony do SGT anything
> other than under the SGT names.
> 
> If you want to get rid of it then the above has to get dropped into
> every caller, or something like...
> 
>> If a driver can only deal with sgt then it won't implement the
>> dma_buf_attach_ops->supported_mapping_types (or whatever we name
>> that).
>>
>> So if either dma_buf_attach_ops is NULL or
>> dma_buf_attach_ops->supported_mapping_types is NULL then we only
>> match to the sgt export.
> 
> This is basically changing how dma_buf_mapping_attach() works to hard
> wire in SGT behaviors. I think this is something you'd regret down the
> road as it starts muddling up different concerns..
> 
> dma_buf_sgt_attach() is very readable for what the driver is doing,
> and grepable. Implicitly doing things when other things are NULL is
> more indirect.
> 
>> What I want to avoid is to get just another dma_buf_attach() variant
>> since we already added a parameter structure here.
> 
> It is a pretty standard kernel style to do things like this rather
> than expose super APIs with complex signatures to every caller. If
> there are many places with the same operation it does tend to help
> alot to mark them with a helper function like this.
> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-26  5:35 [PATCH 00/26] DMA-buf mapping types Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 01/26] dma-buf: Introduce " Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 02/26] dma-buf: Add the SGT DMA mapping type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:04   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 03/26] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_mapping_attach() Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 04/26] dma-buf: Route SGT related actions through attach->map_type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 05/26] dma-buf: Let the exporter select mapping type at pin/map Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  8:03   ` Karl Mehltretter
2026-10-27  5:46     ` Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 06/26] dma-buf: Add match set queries for exporter placement decisions Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:42   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 07/26] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_mapping_map() returning a type-tagged mapping Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:35 ` [PATCH 08/26] dma-buf: Allow single exporter drivers to avoid the match_mapping function Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  7:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 09/26] drm: Check the SGT ops for drm_gem_map_dma_buf() Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  8:02   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 10/26] dma-buf: Convert all the simple exporters to use SGT mapping type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  8:12   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 11/26] drm/vmwgfx: Use match_mapping instead of dummy calls Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  8:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 12/26] accel/habanalabs: Use the SGT_P2P mapping type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  8:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 13/26] drm/xe/dma-buf: Use the SGT " Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  8:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 14/26] drm/amdgpu: " Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  8:46   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 15/26] vfio/pci: Change the DMA-buf exporter to use mapping_type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 16/26] RDMA/uverbs: Use the SGT_P2P mapping type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 17/26] dma-buf: Update dma_buf_phys_vec_to_sgt() to use the SGT " Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:26   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 18/26] iio: buffer: convert " Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:28   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 19/26] functionfs: " Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:35   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 20/26] dma-buf: Remove unused SGT stuff from the common structures Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 21/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_map_attachment(_unlocked) to dma_buf_sgt_ Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:49   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-27 12:05   ` Christian König
2026-10-27 12:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 22/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_unmap_attachment(_unlocked) to dma_buf_sgt_* Alistair Popple
2026-10-26  9:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 23/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_attach() Alistair Popple
2026-10-26 10:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-27  2:15   ` Karl Mehltretter
2026-10-27  3:42     ` Mikko Perttunen
2026-10-27 12:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 13:34         ` Mikko Perttunen
2026-10-27 13:43           ` Christian König
2026-10-27 12:11     ` Christian König
2026-10-27 12:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 12:07   ` Christian König
2026-10-27 12:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 13:17       ` Christian König
2026-10-27 14:08         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 14:28           ` Christian König
2026-10-27 14:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-27 14:54               ` Christian König [this message]
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 24/26] treewide: Rename dma_buf_dynamic_attach() to dma_buf_sgt_dynamic_attach() Alistair Popple
2026-10-26 10:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 25/26] dma-buf: Add kunit tests for mapping type Alistair Popple
2026-10-26 10:19   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-26  5:36 ` [PATCH 26/26] dma-buf: Add kunit tests for mapping type selection Alistair Popple
2026-10-26 10:22   ` sashiko-bot

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