From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Vlad Poenaru <vlad.wing@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
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Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] netpoll: run NAPI poll in softirq context to avoid rq->lock self-deadlock
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:37:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajJ46o4fomfxY5CX@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260616141719.67684bf0@kernel.org>
On Tue 2026-06-16 14:17:19, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:02:57 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > So this is not an issue since commit 7eab73b18630e ("netconsole: convert
> > > to NBCON console infrastructure"). Because from here now on writes are
> > > deferred to the nbcon thread. So this purely about -stable in this case.
> >
> > Hmm, I thought netconsole had some reserved skbs and could to writes
> > 'atomic' like? That said, it was 2.6 era the last time I looked at
> > netconsole.
>
> Yes, that part is fine. The problem is that netconsole tries
> to reap Tx completions if the Tx queue is full. We can't call
> skb destructor in irq context so we put the completed skbs on
> a queue and try to arm softirq to get to them later.
> Arming softirq causes a ksoftirq wake up.
>
> We already skip the completion polling if we detect getting called
> from the same networking driver. It's best effort, anyway.
> Networking-side fix would be to toss another OR condition into
> the skip. But we don't have one that'd work cleanly :S
Alternative solution might be to offload the ksoftirq wake up
to an irq_work. It might make this part safe for the
console->write_atomic() call.
Well, my understanding is that there are more problems.
AFAIK, some drivers do not use an IRQ safe locking, see
https://lore.kernel.org/all/oth5t27z6acp7qxut7u45ekyil7djirg2ny3bnsvnzeqasavxb@nhwdxahvcosh/
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-17 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-10 18:36 [PATCH net] netpoll: run NAPI poll in softirq context to avoid rq->lock self-deadlock Vlad Poenaru
2026-06-11 18:36 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-12 2:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-15 13:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-16 10:35 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-16 15:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-16 15:31 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-17 10:12 ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-17 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-17 11:59 ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-17 12:12 ` John Ogness
2026-06-16 16:32 ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-17 7:42 ` John Ogness
2026-06-16 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16 21:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-17 10:37 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2026-06-17 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-17 12:13 ` Petr Mladek
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