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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sven@thebigcorporation.com>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ben Dooks (embedded platforms)" <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cleanup sched_yield (sys)call nesting.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:34:38 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911182233510.24119@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258578290.12429.108.camel@sven.thebigcorporation.com>

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Sven-Thorsten Dietrich wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 21:56 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Sven-Thorsten Dietrich wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 17:52 +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:28:53 +0100, Leon Woestenberg wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Our timers are very efficient and some day we will need to make jiffies a
> > > > > > function and stop the timer ticking for best performance. At that point
> > > > > > timers are probably the most efficient way to do much of this.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with I2C bitbanged is the stringent timing, we need a way
> > > > > to have fine-grained sleeping
> > > > > mixed with real-time tasks in order to make this work.
> > > > 
> > > > FWIW, the problem that was initially reported has nothing to do with
> > > > this. i2c-algo-bit used mdelay() during transactions, not yield().
> > > > yield() is used only in once place, _between_ transactions attempts.
> > > > There are no strict timing constraints there.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree that dropping out sched_yield entirely should maybe start by
> > > deprecating / flagging as a warning in sched_rt.c.
> > 
> > Errm, that's unrelated to sched_rt.c. 
> > 
> > yield() in the kernel in general is needs to be deprecated.
> >  
> > > This is just a minimal cleanup I stumbled across while looking at it -
> > > to get away from the uglyness of calling into the syscall interface from
> > > inside the Kernel.
> > 
> > And why exactly is that ugly ?
> 
> Calling from a function returning void into a non-void function and then
> ignoring the return code ?
 
Care to read what I wrote further down ?

>> Which is completely irrelevant because the return code is always 0. 

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-18 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-07 19:01 yield() in i2c non-happy paths hits BUG under -rt patch Leon Woestenberg
     [not found] ` <c384c5ea0911071101u7415d37o2611c542e5fae309-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-07 20:01   ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]     ` <20091107210147.3e754278-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-08 18:57       ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
     [not found]         ` <4AF7148C.9090706-IsH+rWyeNGyzjR9+/8zPv5owlv4uC7bZ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 20:12           ` Jean Delvare
2009-11-13 22:03             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-14 18:02               ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]               ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911132139560.24119-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16 15:56                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                   ` <20091116155606.GC29479-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18  0:50                     ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-11-18  1:05                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                         ` <20091118010520.4cd397d4-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 16:28                           ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-11-18 16:52                             ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                               ` <20091118175202.490989d8-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 20:36                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 12:05                                   ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                     ` <20091119130526.23a69b85-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 12:59                                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                         ` <20091119125906.6ad00edd-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 13:06                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 14:00                                             ` Jean Delvare
2009-11-19 14:15                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 13:11                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 13:21                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 13:22                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 13:18                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 20:46                               ` [PATCH] cleanup sched_yield (sys)call nesting Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
     [not found]                                 ` <1258577194.12429.86.camel-ZUMNgey8dAdBci4yedNfAfz91O0DMRRp0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 20:56                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]                                     ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911182153010.24119-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 21:04                                       ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-11-18 21:34                                         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911182233510.24119-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19  4:48                                             ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
     [not found]                                               ` <1258606116.25022.57.camel-ZUMNgey8dAdBci4yedNfAfz91O0DMRRp0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 10:36                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19  3:20                                   ` Ingo Molnar

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