From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc: adapt allowed RTC update error
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 23:00:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201203220027.GB74177@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zh2ubny2.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
On 03/12/2020 22:05:09+0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 2) I2C/SPI ...
>
> tsched t0 t1 t2
> transfer(newsec) RTC update (newsec) RTC increments seconds
>
> Lets assume that ttransfer = t1 - t0 is known.
Note that ttransfer is one of the reason why setting set_offset_nsec
from the RTC driver is not a good idea. The same RTC may be on busses
with different rates and there is no way to know that. I think that was
one of my objections at the time.
ttransfer is not a function of the RTC model but rather of how it is
integrated in the system.
>
> tinc is the same as above = t2 - t1
>
> Again, lets assume that the event is accurate for now and ignore the fuzz
> logic, i.e. tsched == t0
>
> So tsched has to be ttot = t2 - t0 _before_ wallclock reaches t2 and
> increments seconds.
>
I had a rough week and I'm probably not awake enough to follow
completely but is that thinking correct?
For the mc146818, you have t1 - t0 which is probably negligible and t2 -
T& == 500 ms
For most of the other RTCs, you have t1 - t0 is somewhat important,
probably around 100 to 150µs and t2 - t1 is 1s. I would think that what
is needed is tsched has to be t1-t0 before wallclock reaches t1. In that
case t2 doesn't matter, it will always be 1s after t1.
> In this case newsec = t1.tv_sec = (t0 + ttransfer).tv_sec
>
> So now the fuzz logic for this is:
>
> newtime = t0 + ttransfer;
>
> if (newtime.tv_nsec < FUZZ)
> newsec = newtime.tv_sec;
> else if (newtime.tv_nsec > NSEC_PER_SEC - FUZZ)
> newsec = newtime.tv_sec + 1;
> else
> goto fail;
>
> Again the first condition handles the case where t1 >= tsched and the
> second one where t1 < tsched.
>
> So now we have two options to fix this:
>
> 1) Use a negative sync_offset for devices which need #1 above
> (rtc_cmos & similar)
>
> That requires setting tsched to t2 - abs(sync_offset)
>
> 2) Use always a positive sync_offset and a flag which tells
> rtc_tv_nsec_ok() whether it needs to add or subtract.
>
> #1 is good enough. All it takes is a comment at the timer start code why
> abs() is required.
>
> Let me hack that up along with the hrtimer muck.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
--
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
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2020-12-03 1:14 ` [PATCH] rtc: adapt allowed RTC update error Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 2:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 2:10 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 15:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 16:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 21:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 21:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 22:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 13:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-04 14:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 14:37 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-04 14:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 15:08 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-04 15:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 16:35 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 22:00 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2020-12-04 9:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-04 9:51 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-04 10:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 17:29 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 19:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 15:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 16:07 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 20:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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