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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Peter Oberparleiter <oberpar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFD] uevent handling for subchannels
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:46:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200914134642.5e2e2c0e.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200701112313.62a22156.cohuck@redhat.com>

<casts "reanimate" on dead thread>

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:23:13 +0200
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:56:31 +0200
> Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Ok, so I've resumed the thinking process, and I think getting rid of
> > the "no I/O subchannel without functional device" approach is a good
> > idea, and allows us to make handling driver matches more similar to
> > everyone else.  
> 
> As an aside, there's another odd construct: the I/O subchannel driver
> *always* binds to the subchannel device, even if there is a problem,
> and schedules an unregistration of the subchannel device on error. This
> was introduced because events from machine check handling are not
> processed if there isn't a driver (at least I thought back then that it
> was a good idea.) I think a more correct way to handle this would be to
> do the following:
> 
> * If something doesn't work, clean up and return an error in the probe
>   function. The subchannel device stays around, it's just not bound.
> * Have the css bus do some basic processing for subchannels not bound
>   to any driver (e.g., check dnv/w). This would also make it possible
>   to unregister dead message subchannels if a machine check is received
>   for them (don't know if that's an actual problem in pratice.)
> 
> > 
> > What changes would be needed?
> > * The whole logic to suppress uevents for subchannels and generate one
> >   later will go. (Touches the various subchannel driver, including
> >   vfio-ccw.)
> > * ccw_device_todo() can just unregister the ccw device, and there's no
> >   longer a need for ccw_device_call_sch_unregister(). (IIUC, this also
> >   covers setting disconnected devices offline.)  
> 
> I'm actually not sure if unregistration-by-driver is the right thing
> for most cases (except for something like disconnected device removal),
> that should be done by the bus. Maybe something for later (don't fear,
> I don't plan to work on the common I/O layer again :)
> 
> > * As the I/O subchannel driver now needs to deal with cases where no
> >   ccw device is available, the code for that needs to be checked.
> >   (That's probably the most time-consuming task.)  
> 
> Had a quick look, doesn't actually look too bad (most places already
> check for !cdev.)
> 
> > 
> > Userspace should be fine with I/O subchannels without ccw device,
> > that's nothing new.
> > 
> > Does that sound reasonable?  

Is anybody looking at this? The delayed uevent handling is a bit of a
mess for management of vfio-ccw devices...

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-14 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-03 10:40 [RFD] uevent handling for subchannels Cornelia Huck
2020-04-17 12:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-20 15:29   ` Vineeth Vijayan
2020-04-23 14:52     ` Vineeth Vijayan
2020-04-23 16:20       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-27 10:10         ` Peter Oberparleiter
2020-04-30 10:43           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-29 11:56             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-01  9:23               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-14 11:46                 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2020-09-15 10:25                   ` Vineeth Vijayan
2020-09-15 10:31                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-04-23 15:55   ` Halil Pasic
2020-04-23 16:27     ` Cornelia Huck

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