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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vineeth Vijayan <vneethv@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	oberpar@linux.ibm.com, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	farman@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/1] s390/cio: Remove uevent-suppress from css driver
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 12:59:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210119125952.0737f6a8.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210119124724.4c5cec19.pasic@linux.ibm.com>

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 12:47:24 +0100
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:03:25 +0100
> Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 12/21/20 5:51 PM, Halil Pasic wrote:  
> > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:46:34 +0100
> > > Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >     
> > >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:33:16 +0100
> > >> Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >>    
> > >>> I finally came around to test this. In my experience driverctl works for
> > >>> subchannels and vfio_ccw without this patch, and continues to work with
> > >>> it. I found the code in driverctl that does the unbind and the implicit
> > >>> bind (via drivers_probe after after driver_override was set).
> > >>>
> > >>> So now I have to ask, how exactly was the original problem diagnosed?
> > >>>
> > >>> In https://marc.info/?l=linux-s390&m=158591045732735&w=2 there is a
> > >>> paragraph like:
> > >>>
> > >>> """
> > >>> So while there's definitely a good reason for wanting to delay uevents,
> > >>> it is also introducing problems. One is udev rules for subchannels that
> > >>> are supposed to do something before a driver binds (e.g. setting
> > >>> driver_override to bind an I/O subchannel to vfio_ccw instead of
> > >>> io_subchannel) are not effective, as the ADD uevent will only be
> > >>> generated when the io_subchannel driver is already done with doing all
> > >>> setup. Another one is that only the ADD uevent is generated after
> > >>> uevent suppression is lifted; any other uevents that might have been
> > >>> generated are lost.
> > >>> """
> > >>>
> > >>> This is not how driverclt works! I.e. it deals with the situation that
> > >>> the I/O subchannel was already bound to the io_subchannel driver at
> > >>> the time the udev rule installed by driverctl activates (via the
> > >>> mechanism I described above).    
> > >>
> > >> That's... weird. It definitely did not work on the LPAR I initially
> > >> tried it out on!
> > >>    
> > > 
> > > I think Boris told me some weeks ago that it didn't work for him either.
> > > I will check with him after the winter sleep.    
> > 
> > Yesterday I used driverctl successfully for a subchannel on F33.
> > 
> > Not sure what went wrong a couple of months ago but I cannot reproduce 
> > driverctl not working now.  
> 
> Thanks Boris!
> 
> @Conny: IMHO driver_override has to work without this patch. Can you
> figure out, why did you claim it does not (and provide instructions
> on how to reproduce the problem)?

This may have been due to other reasons and only looking like a uevent
issue at the first glance; however, I do not have that particular setup
anymore, so I guess we'll never know.

> 
> >   
> > >     
> > >> However, I think removing the suppression still looks like a good idea:
> > >> we still have the "any uevent other than ADD will have been lost"
> > >> problem.
> > >>    
> > I totally agree with this.  
> 
> @Vineeth: I think the best way to move forward is to respin this patch
> with a commit message, that doesn't argue about driver_override.

That sounds good to me.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-19 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-24  9:34 [RFC 0/1] Remove uevent suppression logic from css driver Vineeth Vijayan
2020-11-24  9:34 ` [RFC 1/1] s390/cio: Remove uevent-suppress " Vineeth Vijayan
2020-11-24 13:02   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-11-25  9:40     ` Vineeth Vijayan
2020-12-07  8:09       ` Vineeth Vijayan
2020-12-08 17:30         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-09 12:52           ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-15 18:13             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-19  6:33               ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-21 15:46                 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-21 16:51                   ` Halil Pasic
2021-01-14 13:03                     ` Boris Fiuczynski
2021-01-19 11:47                       ` Halil Pasic
2021-01-19 11:59                         ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2021-01-19 12:18                           ` Vineeth Vijayan
     [not found]               ` <89146a87-371a-f148-057b-d3b7ce0cc21e@linux.ibm.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20201216130710.5aa6a933.cohuck@redhat.com>
2020-12-19  7:20                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-21 15:52                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-21 17:23                       ` Halil Pasic

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