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From: Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>,
	Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
	kgraul@linux.ibm.com, wenjia@linux.ibm.com, jaka@linux.ibm.com,
	alibuda@linux.alibaba.com, tonylu@linux.alibaba.com,
	guwen@linux.alibaba.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3] net/smc: avoid atomic_set and smp_wmb in the tx path when possible
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:53:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231122095341.GG3323@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22394c7b-0470-472d-9474-4de5fc86c5ea@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:11:17AM +0100, Alexandra Winter wrote:
>
>
>On 20.11.23 04:20, Dust Li wrote:
>>> It seems to me that the purpose of conn->tx_pushing is
>>> a) Serve as a mutex, so only one thread per conn will call __smc_tx_sndbuf_nonempty().
>>> b) Repeat, in case some other thread has added data to sndbuf concurrently.
>>>
>>> I agree that this patch does not change the behaviour of this function and removes an
>>> atomic_set() in the likely path.
>>>
>>> I wonder however: All callers of smc_tx_sndbuf_nonempty() must hold the socket lock.
>>> So how can we ever run in a concurrency situation?
>>> Is this handling of conn->tx_pushing necessary at all?
>> Hi Sandy,
>> 
>> Overall, I think you are right. But there is something we need to take care.
>> 
>> Before commit 6b88af839d20 ("net/smc: don't send in the BH context if
>> sock_owned_by_user"), we used to call smc_tx_pending() in the soft IRQ,
>> without checking sock_owned_by_user(), which would caused a race condition
>> because bh_lock_sock() did not honor sock_lock(). To address this issue,
>> I have added the tx_pushing mechanism. However, with commit 6b88af839d20,
>> we now defer the transmission if sock_lock() is held by the user.
>> Therefore, there should no longer be a race condition. Nevertheless, if
>> we remove the tx_pending mechanism, we must always remember not to call
>> smc_tx_sndbuf_nonempty() in the soft IRQ when the user holds the sock lock.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Dust
>
>
>ok, I understand.
>So whoever is willing to give it a try and simplify smc_tx_sndbuf_nonempty(),
>should remember to document that requirement/precondition.
>Maybe in a Function context section of a kernel-doc function decription?
>(as described in https://docs.kernel.org/doc-guide/kernel-doc.html)
>Although smc_tx_sndbuf_nonempty() is not exported, this format is helpful.

I double checked this and realized that I may have missed something
previously. The original goal of introducing tx_push was to maximize the
amount of data that could be corked in order to achieve the best
performance.

__smc_tx_sndbuf_nonempty() is thread and context safe, meaning that
it can be called simultaneously in both user context and softirq without
causing any bugs, just some CPU waste. Although I think we should remove
all the atomics & locks in the data path and only use sock_lock in the
long-term.

I will collaborate with Li RongQing on a new version that eliminates the
tx_pushing.

Best regards,
Dust

      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-17 11:16 [PATCH net-next v3] net/smc: avoid atomic_set and smp_wmb in the tx path when possible Li RongQing
2023-11-17 12:27 ` Alexandra Winter
2023-11-20  3:20   ` Dust Li
2023-11-20  9:11     ` Alexandra Winter
2023-11-20  9:17       ` Alexandra Winter
2023-11-20  9:49         ` Tony Lu
2023-11-22  9:53       ` Dust Li [this message]

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