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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/8] powerpc/smp: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_MC to guard MC scheduling bits
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 11:42:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251014094210.GQ3245006@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWMkKFLEZ34j=JV0Ls+o80UfC6s3yD5x-9G2K8ZV-Y-9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 11:25:53AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hoi Peter,
> 
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 14:57, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > Now, when I look at unifying those config options (there's a metric ton
> > of crap that's duplicated in the arch/*/Kconfig), I end up with something
> > like the below.
> >
> > And while that isn't exact, it is the closest I could make it without
> > making a giant mess of things.
> >
> > WDYT?
> 
> Thanks for your patch, which is now commit 7bd291abe2da09f5 ("sched:
> Unify the SCHED_{SMT,CLUSTER,MC} Kconfig") in v6.18-rc1.
> 
> > --- a/arch/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> > @@ -41,6 +41,44 @@ config HOTPLUG_SMT
> >  config SMT_NUM_THREADS_DYNAMIC
> >         bool
> >
> > +config ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_SMT
> > +       bool
> > +
> > +config ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_CLUSTER
> > +       bool
> > +
> > +config ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_MC
> > +       bool
> > +
> > +config SCHED_SMT
> > +       bool "SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support"
> > +       depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_SMT
> > +       default y
> 
> This is now enabled by default everywhere, while it was disabled by
> default on most architectures before...

I'm not sure ARCH_SUPPORTS_SCHED_SMT counts as everywhere, but yes.
A fair deal of the architectures had all this default yes, and I had to
pick something. Can't make an omelette without breaking an egg and all
that :/

> > +       help
> > +         Improves the CPU scheduler's decision making when dealing with
> > +         MultiThreading at a cost of slightly increased overhead in some
> > +         places. If unsure say N here.
> 
> So it should default to n?

That's just help text that got carried around. Many of the architectures
that had default y still had this text on. I suppose we can change it if
someone cares.

> If it is really needed on some architectures or platforms, I guess
> they can still select it explicitly?

There were 4 cases:

 - arch doesn't support SMT
 - arch supports SMT and lets user pick, default Y
 - arch supports SMT and lets user pick, default N
 - arch mandates SMT

Of those 3 are still possible, the one we lost is the default N case.

Old configs that have =N will continue to have N. New configs might end
up with Y.

Why is this a problem?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-14  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26  4:13 [PATCH v7 0/8] sched/fair: Get rid of sched_domains_curr_level hack for tl->cpumask() K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] " K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-28 23:06   ` Tim Chen
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] powerpc/smp: Rename cpu_corgroup_* to cpu_corgrp_* K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  5:02   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-09-01  3:05     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] powerpc/smp: Export cpu_coregroup_mask() K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  4:54   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] powerpc/smp: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_MC to guard MC scheduling bits K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  4:49   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26  8:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26  9:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26  9:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-28 14:43         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-01  8:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-01  8:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-14  9:25         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14  9:42           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-14 12:37             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 14:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-14 15:04                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-26  9:27   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-01  4:50     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] sched/topology: Unify tl_smt_mask() across core and all arch K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  5:13   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26  8:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26  8:11     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26  8:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] sched/topology: Unify tl_cls_mask() across core and x86 K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  5:14   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] sched/topology: Unify tl_mc_mask() across core and all arch K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  5:15   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26  4:13 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] sched/topology: Unify tl_pkg_mask() " K Prateek Nayak
2025-08-26  5:16   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-26 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] sched/fair: Get rid of sched_domains_curr_level hack for tl->cpumask() Shrikanth Hegde
2025-08-26 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-29  7:53     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-08-29  8:53       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-09-01  4:39         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-01  8:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-01 17:06           ` Shrikanth Hegde

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