From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
Holger Dengler <dengler@linux.ibm.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 21:53:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5078839.1IzOArtZ34@tauon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3975735.1758311280@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
Am Freitag, 19. September 2025, 21:48:00 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit
schrieb David Howells:
Hi David,
> > I see you also have a test in sha3_mod_init(), which doesn't make
sense.
> > The tests should be in the KUnit test suite(s). If you intended for
the
> > sha3_mod_init() test to be a FIPS pre-operational self-test, then (1)
it
> > would first need to be confirmed with the people doing FIPS
> > certifications that a FIPS pre-operational self-test is actually
> > necessary here, (2) it would need to be fixed to actually fulfill the
> > requirements for that type of test such as panicing the kernel on
> > failure, and (3) it would need to come in its own patch with its own
> > explanation. But, unless you are sure you actually need the FIPS test,
> > just omit it out for now and focus on the real tests.
>
> I disagree. It should have at least a single self-test. If we fail to
load
> any modules because the hash is broken on a particular CPU, it would be
> useful to have a note in dmesg. Loading kunit test modules becomes
tricky
> in such a case.
Just for clarifications of the FIPS requirements: One test of any of the
SHA3/SHAKE algorithms during startup is sufficient for *one* Keccak
implementation. FIPS wants the actual Keccak sponge being tested, it does
not care for the miniscule differences between the different SHA/SHAKE
definitions.
Yet, if we have multiple Keccak sponge implementations, then each needs its
own self test.
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-19 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-19 16:31 [PATCH v2] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256 David Howells
2025-09-19 19:04 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-19 19:48 ` David Howells
2025-09-19 19:53 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2025-09-19 20:47 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-19 21:20 ` Stephan Mueller
2025-09-19 20:32 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 17:36 ` David Howells
2025-09-23 17:45 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-20 10:53 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-21 19:27 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-21 21:18 ` David Howells
2025-09-21 21:57 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 14:22 ` David Howells
2025-09-23 15:32 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 16:25 ` David Howells
2025-09-23 16:31 ` David Howells
2025-09-25 8:39 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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