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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/38] New page table range API
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:42:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56ca93af-67dc-9d10-d27e-00c8d7c20f1b@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZK1My5hQYC2Kb6G1@casper.infradead.org>



Am 11.07.23 um 14:36 schrieb Matthew Wilcox:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 11:07:06AM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> Am 10.07.23 um 22:43 schrieb Matthew Wilcox (Oracle):
>>> This patchset changes the API used by the MM to set up page table entries.
>>> The four APIs are:
>>>       set_ptes(mm, addr, ptep, pte, nr)
>>>       update_mmu_cache_range(vma, addr, ptep, nr)
>>>       flush_dcache_folio(folio)
>>>       flush_icache_pages(vma, page, nr)
>>>
>>> flush_dcache_folio() isn't technically new, but no architecture
>>> implemented it, so I've done that for them.  The old APIs remain around
>>> but are mostly implemented by calling the new interfaces.
>>>
>>> The new APIs are based around setting up N page table entries at once.
>>> The N entries belong to the same PMD, the same folio and the same VMA,
>>> so ptep++ is a legitimate operation, and locking is taken care of for
>>> you.  Some architectures can do a better job of it than just a loop,
>>> but I have hesitated to make too deep a change to architectures I don't
>>> understand well.
>>>
>>> One thing I have changed in every architecture is that PG_arch_1 is now a
>>> per-folio bit instead of a per-page bit.  This was something that would
>>> have to happen eventually, and it makes sense to do it now rather than
>>> iterate over every page involved in a cache flush and figure out if it
>>> needs to happen.
>>
>> I think we do use PG_arch_1 on s390 for our secure page handling and
>> making this perf folio instead of physical page really seems wrong
>> and it probably breaks this code.
> 
> Per-page flags are going away in the next few years, so you're going to
> need a new design.  s390 seems to do a lot of unusual things.  I wish
> you'd talk to the rest of us more.

I understand you point from a logical point of view, but a 4k page frame
is also a hardware defined memory region. And I think not only for us.
How do you want to implement hardware poisoning for example?
Marking the whole folio with PG_hwpoison seems wrong.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-13 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230710204339.3554919-1-willy@infradead.org>
2023-07-10 20:43 ` [PATCH v5 23/38] s390: Implement the new page table range API Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-07-11  9:07 ` [PATCH v5 00/38] New " Christian Borntraeger
2023-07-11 12:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-11 15:24     ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-07-11 16:52       ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-11 22:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-12  5:29       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-12  8:35         ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-07-13 10:42     ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2023-07-13 13:42       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-13 20:27         ` Christian Borntraeger
2023-07-13 21:22           ` Matthew Wilcox

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