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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Noam Camus <noamc@ezchip.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2 1/5] processor.h: introduce cpu_relax_yield
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 14:52:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ebfbdba-02bb-e837-dbce-6a5acaf3a374@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161115133758.GV1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

On 11/15/2016 02:37 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:19:53PM +0100, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> On 11/15/2016 01:30 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:03:11AM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>>> For spinning loops people do often use barrier() or cpu_relax().
>>>> For most architectures cpu_relax and barrier are the same, but on
>>>> some architectures cpu_relax can add some latency.
>>>> For example on power,sparc64 and arc, cpu_relax can shift the CPU
>>>> towards other hardware threads in an SMT environment.
>>>> On s390 cpu_relax does even more, it uses an hypercall to the
>>>> hypervisor to give up the timeslice.
>>>> In contrast to the SMT yielding this can result in larger latencies.
>>>> In some places this latency is unwanted, so another variant
>>>> "cpu_relax_lowlatency" was introduced. Before this is used in more
>>>> and more places, lets revert the logic and provide a cpu_relax_yield
>>>> that can be called in places where yielding is more important than
>>>> latency. By default this is the same as cpu_relax on all architectures.
>>>
>>> Rather than having to update all these architectures in this way, can't
>>> we put in some linux/*.h header something like:
>>>
>>> #ifndef cpu_relax_yield
>>> #define cpu_relax_yield() cpu_relax()
>>> #endif
>>>
>>> so only those architectures that need to do something need to be
>>> modified?
>>
>> These patches are part of linux-next since a month or so, changing that 
>> would invalidate all the next testing. If people want that, I can certainly
>> do that, though.
> 
> It's three weeks since you posted them.  For one of those weeks (the
> week you posted them) I was away, and missed them while catching up.
> Sorry, but it sometimes takes a while to spot things amongst the
> backlog, and normally takes some subsequent activity on the thread to
> bring it back into view.

Absolutely no need to apologize. Thank you for doing the review and the proposal. 
I will do whatever is consensus, but since this looks like tip/locking material
I will wait for Peter or Ingo to decide about the if and how.

Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-15 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-25  9:03 [GIT PULL v2 0/5] cpu_relax: drop lowlatency, introduce yield Christian Borntraeger
2016-10-25  9:03 ` [GIT PULL v2 1/5] processor.h: introduce cpu_relax_yield Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-15 12:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-15 13:19     ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-15 13:37       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-15 13:52         ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2016-10-25  9:03 ` [GIT PULL v2 2/5] stop_machine: yield CPU during stop machine Christian Borntraeger
2016-10-25  9:03 ` [GIT PULL v2 3/5] s390: make cpu_relax a barrier again Christian Borntraeger
2016-10-25  9:03 ` [GIT PULL v2 4/5] processor.h: Remove cpu_relax_lowlatency users Christian Borntraeger
2016-10-25  9:03 ` [GIT PULL v2 5/5] processor.h: remove cpu_relax_lowlatency Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-15 10:15 ` [GIT PULL v2 0/5] cpu_relax: drop lowlatency, introduce yield Christian Borntraeger

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