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From: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>
To: dust.li@linux.alibaba.com, Julian Ruess <julianr@linux.ibm.com>,
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	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:00:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80330f0e-d769-4251-be2f-a2b5adb12ef2@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250117021353.GF89233@linux.alibaba.com>



On 17.01.25 03:13, Dust Li wrote:
>>>> Modular Approach: I've made the ism_loopback an independent kernel
>>>> module since dynamic enable/disable functionality is not yet supported
>>>> in SMC. Using insmod and rmmod for module management could provide the
>>>> flexibility needed in practical scenarios.
>>
>> With this proposal ism_loopback is just another ism device and SMC-D will
>> handle removal just like ism_client.remove(ism_dev) of other ism devices.
>>
>> But I understand that net/smc/ism_loopback.c today does not provide enable/disable,
>> which is a big disadvantage, I agree. The ism layer is prepared for dynamic
>> removal by ism_dev_unregister(). In case of this RFC that would only happen
>> in case of rmmod ism. Which should be improved.
>> One way to do that would be a separate ism_loopback kernel module, like you say.
>> Today ism_loopback is only 10k LOC, so I'd be fine with leaving it in the ism module.
>> I also think it is a great way for testing any ISM client, so it has benefit for
>> anybody using the ism module.
>> Another way would be e.g. an 'enable' entry in the sysfs of the loopback device.
>> (Once we agree if and how to represent ism devices in genera in sysfs).
> This works for me as well. I think it would be better to implement this
> within the common ISM layer, rather than duplicating the code in each
> device. Similar to how it's done in netdevice.
> 
> Best regards,
> Dust


Is there a specific example for enable/disable in the netdevice code, you have in mind?
Or do you mean in general how netdevice provides a common layer?
Yes, everything that is common for all devices should be provided by the network layer.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-17 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-15 19:55 [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 1/7] net/ism: Create net/ism Alexandra Winter
2025-01-16 20:08   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 12:06     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 2/7] net/ism: Remove dependencies between ISM_VPCI and SMC Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 3/7] net/ism: Use uuid_t for ISM GID Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 17:18   ` Simon Horman
2025-01-22 14:46     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 4/7] net/ism: Add kernel-doc comments for ism functions Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 22:06   ` Halil Pasic
2025-01-20  6:32   ` Dust Li
2025-01-20  9:56     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 10:07       ` Julian Ruess
2025-01-20 11:35         ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 10:34     ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-22 15:02       ` Dust Li
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 5/7] net/ism: Move ism_loopback to net/ism Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20  3:55   ` Dust Li
2025-01-20  9:31     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-06 17:36   ` Julian Ruess
2025-02-10 10:39     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 6/7] s390/ism: Define ismvp_dev Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 7/7] net/smc: Use only ism_ops Alexandra Winter
2025-01-16  9:32 ` [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer Dust Li
2025-01-16 11:55   ` Julian Ruess
2025-01-16 16:17     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-16 17:08       ` Julian Ruess
2025-01-17  2:13       ` Dust Li
2025-01-17 10:38         ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-17 15:02           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 16:00             ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-17 16:33               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 16:57                 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-17 20:29                   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-20  6:21                     ` Dust Li
2025-01-20 12:03                       ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 16:01                         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-20 17:25                           ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-18 15:31           ` Dust Li
2025-01-28 16:04             ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-10  5:08               ` Dust Li
2025-02-10  9:38                 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-11  1:57                   ` Dust Li
2025-02-16 15:40                   ` Wen Gu
2025-02-19 11:25                     ` [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer - naming Alexandra Winter
2025-02-25  1:36                       ` Dust Li
2025-02-25  8:40                         ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-17 13:00         ` Alexandra Winter [this message]
2025-01-17 15:10           ` [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 16:20             ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 10:28           ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-22  3:04             ` Dust Li
2025-01-22 12:02               ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-22 12:05                 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-22 14:10                   ` Dust Li
2025-01-17 15:06       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 15:38         ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-16 15:38       ` Wen Gu
2025-01-17 11:04   ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-18 15:24     ` Dust Li
2025-01-20 11:45       ` Alexandra Winter

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