From: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>
To: dust.li@linux.alibaba.com, Julian Ruess <julianr@linux.ibm.com>,
Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
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Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:00:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <80330f0e-d769-4251-be2f-a2b5adb12ef2@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250117021353.GF89233@linux.alibaba.com>
On 17.01.25 03:13, Dust Li wrote:
>>>> Modular Approach: I've made the ism_loopback an independent kernel
>>>> module since dynamic enable/disable functionality is not yet supported
>>>> in SMC. Using insmod and rmmod for module management could provide the
>>>> flexibility needed in practical scenarios.
>>
>> With this proposal ism_loopback is just another ism device and SMC-D will
>> handle removal just like ism_client.remove(ism_dev) of other ism devices.
>>
>> But I understand that net/smc/ism_loopback.c today does not provide enable/disable,
>> which is a big disadvantage, I agree. The ism layer is prepared for dynamic
>> removal by ism_dev_unregister(). In case of this RFC that would only happen
>> in case of rmmod ism. Which should be improved.
>> One way to do that would be a separate ism_loopback kernel module, like you say.
>> Today ism_loopback is only 10k LOC, so I'd be fine with leaving it in the ism module.
>> I also think it is a great way for testing any ISM client, so it has benefit for
>> anybody using the ism module.
>> Another way would be e.g. an 'enable' entry in the sysfs of the loopback device.
>> (Once we agree if and how to represent ism devices in genera in sysfs).
> This works for me as well. I think it would be better to implement this
> within the common ISM layer, rather than duplicating the code in each
> device. Similar to how it's done in netdevice.
>
> Best regards,
> Dust
Is there a specific example for enable/disable in the netdevice code, you have in mind?
Or do you mean in general how netdevice provides a common layer?
Yes, everything that is common for all devices should be provided by the network layer.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-17 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-15 19:55 [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 1/7] net/ism: Create net/ism Alexandra Winter
2025-01-16 20:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 12:06 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 2/7] net/ism: Remove dependencies between ISM_VPCI and SMC Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 3/7] net/ism: Use uuid_t for ISM GID Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 17:18 ` Simon Horman
2025-01-22 14:46 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 4/7] net/ism: Add kernel-doc comments for ism functions Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 22:06 ` Halil Pasic
2025-01-20 6:32 ` Dust Li
2025-01-20 9:56 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 10:07 ` Julian Ruess
2025-01-20 11:35 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 10:34 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-22 15:02 ` Dust Li
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 5/7] net/ism: Move ism_loopback to net/ism Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 3:55 ` Dust Li
2025-01-20 9:31 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-06 17:36 ` Julian Ruess
2025-02-10 10:39 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 6/7] s390/ism: Define ismvp_dev Alexandra Winter
2025-01-15 19:55 ` [RFC net-next 7/7] net/smc: Use only ism_ops Alexandra Winter
2025-01-16 9:32 ` [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer Dust Li
2025-01-16 11:55 ` Julian Ruess
2025-01-16 16:17 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-16 17:08 ` Julian Ruess
2025-01-17 2:13 ` Dust Li
2025-01-17 10:38 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-17 15:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 16:00 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-17 16:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 16:57 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-01-17 20:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-20 6:21 ` Dust Li
2025-01-20 12:03 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 16:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-20 17:25 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-18 15:31 ` Dust Li
2025-01-28 16:04 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-10 5:08 ` Dust Li
2025-02-10 9:38 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-11 1:57 ` Dust Li
2025-02-16 15:40 ` Wen Gu
2025-02-19 11:25 ` [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer - naming Alexandra Winter
2025-02-25 1:36 ` Dust Li
2025-02-25 8:40 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-17 13:00 ` Alexandra Winter [this message]
2025-01-17 15:10 ` [RFC net-next 0/7] Provide an ism layer Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 16:20 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-20 10:28 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-22 3:04 ` Dust Li
2025-01-22 12:02 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-22 12:05 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-22 14:10 ` Dust Li
2025-01-17 15:06 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-17 15:38 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-02-16 15:38 ` Wen Gu
2025-01-17 11:04 ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-18 15:24 ` Dust Li
2025-01-20 11:45 ` Alexandra Winter
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