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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/5] cpu/speculation: Add 'cpu_spec_mitigations=' cmdline options
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:41:21 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878swguer2.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190411131540.754t5t4tp55i6vjq@treble>

Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 02:10:01PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019, Michael Ellerman wrote:
>> > Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> writes:
>> > 
>> > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 06:01:36PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> > >> Thinking about this more, we can shave off the first 4 chars and have it
>> > >> be:
>> > >> 
>> > >> spec_mitigations=
>> > >> 
>> > >> I think it is painfully clear which speculation mitigations we mean. And
>> > >> the other switches don't have "cpu_" prefixes too so...
>> > >
>> > > Sure, I'm ok with renaming it to that, if there are no objections.
>> > 
>> > What about when we have a mitigation for a non-speculation related bug :)
>> 
>> Those kind of silicon bugs are usually mitigated unconditionally.
>
> Right.
>
> But at least "mitigations=" is nice and short.  We could clarify in the
> documentation that it doesn't apply to *all* mitigations, only the ones
> which are optional and which can affect performance.
>
> And it would give us the freedom to include any future "optional"
> mitigations, spec or not.
>
> I kind of like it.  But I could go either way.

Some of the published SMT attacks are not speculation based.

And arguably we already have an optional mitigation for those, ie. nosmt.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-12  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190404164410.FyWPYQnV_AC5qVM5C3Jcx1ysIg_8piJ6yY46gIDHjZU@z>
2019-04-04 16:44 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] cpu/speculation: Add 'cpu_spec_mitigations=' cmdline options Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]   ` <20190404164411.Gy3S4HmcWfyKhBREvXHY5FPLSwAUc9Z1y2KsB07Pmm4@z>
2019-04-04 16:44     ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] " Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]       ` <20190404164908.r4AYeBs3-dkedAjA4YfFz402EZXqM30A9pdq22wsHN4@z>
2019-04-04 16:49         ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]       ` <20190405131211.Q2NjuOAdnJlvlrA0AG2RZhInDwko2zhWKJScqKXcYKQ@z>
2019-04-05 13:12         ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]           ` <20190405142048.qJvWe7mR5XJIzpc5altU1UI3DVF6Fm9Yjvd8BKsNEy4@z>
2019-04-05 14:20             ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]               ` <20190405152059.08_dCkDXzn8b5SW1QVcJq5DyPHq85ZVw5ngPousboME@z>
2019-04-05 15:20                 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                   ` <20190405160136.4tt7RfRZIEc9AAQ_k2zJ0AX2Oh1p-cAAYSJuQZnqAA0@z>
2019-04-05 16:01                     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-05 16:18                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-10  5:48                         ` Michael Ellerman
2019-04-10  8:30                           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-10 12:10                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-11 13:15                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-12  2:41                               ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2019-04-12  2:29                             ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]   ` <20190404164412.goQjNbtLtNK5Xhety5Y2SrWdf5jOoB1EZ0aqJLJdxHw@z>
2019-04-04 16:44     ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] x86/speculation: Add support for " Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]       ` <20190405135712.h8C5NFnWFSMYwkqvOodZqwvUhkB0wm8DZ17FpWjVXoY@z>
2019-04-05 13:57         ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]           ` <20190405143101.ehopmxN-UUs4udfFq_s3rur7f147JR8sKQYe2BlTfXQ@z>
2019-04-05 14:31             ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]               ` <20190405152650.DqBCc8B5pVR8hG3DaAapjrpOZ6Bf20rzQgqS0JGbMCs@z>
2019-04-05 15:26                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-05 16:05                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]           ` <20190405151809.loO3BRPkxdSIbjhaOkHcgSzX7AEXml11-UID3nahj9s@z>
2019-04-05 15:18             ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]               ` <20190405153048.O_Br143nVxVMU9csW4aOtbQpM08-f4KvQ02DvzZx_s8@z>
2019-04-05 15:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]   ` <20190404164413.IgIvLuMu4GLkDdvSHFyBaGh9dXrNjMsr8AmhWG65Rf0@z>
2019-04-04 16:44     ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] powerpc/speculation: " Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]       ` <20190404194905.qR9T-btAf0BVt0YfG6H0h19JLAE1AXADvXFhopuL0f4@z>
2019-04-04 19:49         ` Jiri Kosina
     [not found]           ` <20190404200104.INe2nbO9Bg__dm-H_nSr2d4XkjWKVig0XnWHSYky-mk@z>
2019-04-04 20:01             ` Timothy Pearson
2019-04-10  6:06       ` Michael Ellerman
2019-04-11  4:02         ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]   ` <20190404164414.cktiJTWLfAEnxNs2wsW9YNTw8sV7S6dkTOl6n1bXI5U@z>
2019-04-04 16:44     ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] s390/speculation: " Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]   ` <20190404164415.7sB56buW6sV8GzaJvfyTl6CefUF2WNywA7izu14xWn8@z>
2019-04-04 16:44     ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] arm64/speculation: " Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]       ` <20190405143958.68mhX8hptXUHk3hwMQ9WfDPhB-0ONhSHKqYsnMrEJjs@z>
2019-04-05 14:39         ` Steven Price
     [not found]           ` <20190405144356.9p1BhXsIjOJE5oKY8oqxUMAecWPbYA158YjKfCNCYAk@z>
2019-04-05 14:43             ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]       ` <20190405144414.nk-UumeN0sm2XyB05ZZDspKvSwX8qAkPSsQ9oDw_tKQ@z>
2019-04-05 14:44         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-05 16:03           ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]   ` <20190404165054.iJV6ETT60vreD-Rl1FsxCk4pKUcybxmjvQFzn5MlZDs@z>
2019-04-04 16:50     ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] cpu/speculation: Add " Waiman Long

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