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From: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/15] KVM: s390: interfaces to (de)configure guest's AP matrix
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 10:14:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9baa91c4-bb06-a16e-5f7c-c6dacef6e157@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <829b70c7-1648-f1c3-f656-3dca56bb3d8e@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 05/03/2018 12:01 PM, Pierre Morel wrote:
> On 03/05/2018 16:41, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>> On 05/02/2018 10:57 AM, Pierre Morel wrote:
>>> On 25/04/2018 18:21, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>>> On 04/23/2018 09:46 AM, Pierre Morel wrote:
>>>>> On 15/04/2018 23:22, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>>>>> Provides interfaces to assign AP adapters, usage domains
>>>>>> and control domains to a KVM guest.
> ...
>> The kvm_ap_configure_matrix(kvm, matrix) interface configures the 
>> APM, AQM and ADM in the
>> guest's CRYCB which implies AP instructions are being interpreted. 
>> There is nothing in SIE
>> precluding the sharing of AP queues between guests using SIE to 
>> interpret AP instructions,
>> it is my opinion - along with several others - that this is not 
>> advisable given the
>> results are not predictable, not to mention the security concerns. If 
>> the protocol to access
>> queues changes, then we create a different interface. The other 
>> option is to include a flag
>> on the kvm_ap_configure_matrix(kvm, matrix) interface to indicate 
>> whether sharing is
>> allowed. I don't like this, because we have no way of knowing if the 
>> caller has taken the
>> proper care to ensure the VM sharing the queue should be allowed 
>> access. Besides, when
>> queue sharing is implemented, it is my opinion that we will intercept 
>> the AP instructions
>> and the matrix will not be configured in the CRYCB. I stick by my 
>> response above.
>
> I mean, validating the queue sharing is a mater of the VFIO driver.
> This code is not needed if the VFIO driver is not used.
> But it is not very important.

Yes, this check could have been implemented in the VFIO driver, but as I 
stated above, that
would require the driver to "know" the internals of KVM. I think the KVM 
logic should
be encapsulated in KVM. If we want to allow sharing of interpreted AP 
devices, then we
can always add a flag to the interface.

>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>>> +static int kvm_ap_matrix_apm_create(struct kvm_ap_matrix 
>>>>>> *ap_matrix,
>>>>>> +                    struct ap_config_info *config)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    int apm_max = (config && config->apxa) ? config->Na + 1 : 16;
>>>>>
>>>>> At this moment you already know the format of the crycb.
>>>>
>>>> How?
>>>
>>> you calculated this in kvm_ap_build_crycbd() which is called from 
>>> kvm_s390_crypto_init()
>>> itself called from kvm_arch_init_vm().
>>> It is when starting the VM.
>>
>> This structure is used by the vfio_ap driver to store the mediated 
>> matrix device's matrix
>> configuration as well as to configure the CRYCB. The mediated 
>> device's matrix is
>> configured before the guest is started ... it is the means for 
>> configuring the guest's
>> matrix after all. The bottom line is, this function will be called 
>> long before the
>> kvm_ap_build_crycbd() function is called.
>
> you are right, I was thinking about open, should have take more 
> attention.
> Sorry.
>
> Pierre
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-07 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-15 21:22 [PATCH v4 00/15] s390: vfio-ap: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] s390: zcrypt: externalize AP instructions available function Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16  8:44   ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-16 12:11     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 13:31       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:56         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 18:14           ` Tony Krowiak
     [not found]           ` <db4245ec-0191-2c32-5c1c-12af50b944c6@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2018-04-23  7:04             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-16 15:59   ` Pierre Morel
     [not found]     ` <OFF71B62BB.95581C62-ON00258272.00264957-C1258272.0026A1CA@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2018-04-17 12:44       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-04  7:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-07 14:02     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-07 14:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] KVM: s390: reset crypto attributes for all vcpus Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 11:34   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 13:47     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 14:09       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 14:29   ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-17 14:55     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 15:10       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 17:54         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16  8:56   ` Pierre Morel
     [not found]     ` <OFE3FE11B1.8E1BDDEF-ON00258272.002AEDB1-C1258272.002B06EF@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2018-04-17 10:10       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 14:26         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 15:21           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 18:08             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-18  7:49               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-22 14:52                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-23  7:03                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-24 13:01                     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-24 13:13                       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 14:15     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 15:52       ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-22 21:11         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 14:30   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] KVM: s390: enable/disable AP interpretive execution Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16 10:51   ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-16 11:13     ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-16 11:52       ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-17 15:12         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 15:09       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 15:02     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:13       ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-17 16:22         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:55           ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-17 18:11             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-18  8:31               ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-19 14:28                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:34         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16 11:12   ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-17 15:11     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] KVM: s390: interfaces to (de)configure guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16  5:04   ` kbuild test robot
2018-04-23 13:46   ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-25 16:21     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-02 14:57       ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-03 14:41         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-05-03 16:01           ` Pierre Morel
2018-05-07 14:14             ` Tony Krowiak [this message]
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] KVM: s390: configure the guest's AP devices Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16 13:05   ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-16 14:51     ` Halil Pasic
2018-04-17 16:12       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:08     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:18       ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-17 16:36         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-18 11:56   ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-22 14:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-04-15 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-04-16 13:13   ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-16 13:53     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-17 16:16       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:14     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-04-17 16:25       ` Pierre Morel
2018-04-17 16:37         ` Tony Krowiak

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