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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	maddy@linux.ibm.com, srikar@linux.ibm.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	seanjc@google.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	huschle@linux.ibm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] Paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 12:39:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUBHw7MvOQYusuuA@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8368868e-48aa-4a90-95d1-1be4de9879e8@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 11:00:18AM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/4/25 6:58 PM, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
> > On Wed, 2025-11-19 at 18:14 +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:

...

> > Others have already commented on the naming, and I would agree that
> > "paravirt" is really misleading. I cannot say that the previous "cpu-
> > avoid" one was perfect, but it was much better.
 
It was my suggestion to switch names. cpu-avoid is definitely a
no-go. Because it doesn't explain anything and only confuses.

I suggested 'paravirt' (notice - only suggested) because the patch
series is mainly discussing paravirtualized VMs. But now I'm not even
sure that the idea of the series is:

1. Applicable only to paravirtualized VMs; and 
2. Preemption and rescheduling throttling requires another in-kernel
   concept other than nohs, isolcpus, cgroups and similar.

Shrikanth, can you please clarify the scope of the new feature? Would
it be useful for non-paravirtualized VMs, for example? Any other
task-cpu bonding problems?

On previous rounds you tried to implement the same with cgroups, as
far as I understood. Can you discuss that? What exactly can't be done
with the existing kernel APIs?

Thanks,
Yury

> > [1] https://github.com/iii-i/linux/commits/iii/poc/cpu-avoid/v3/
> 
> Will look into it. one thing to to be careful are CPU numbers.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-15 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20251119124449.1149616-1-sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
2025-12-04 13:28 ` [PATCH 00/17] Paravirt CPUs and push task for less vCPU preemption Ilya Leoshkevich
2025-12-05  5:30   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-15 17:39     ` Yury Norov [this message]
2025-12-18  5:22       ` Shrikanth Hegde

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