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From: "D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>,
	Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
	kgraul@linux.ibm.com, jaka@linux.ibm.com
Cc: kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net/smc: fix panic smc_tcp_syn_recv_sock() while closing listen socket
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:06:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab417654-8aba-f357-8ac5-16c4c2b291e1@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d18e1a78-3b3a-8f23-6db1-20c16795d3ef@linux.ibm.com>



On 9/26/23 3:18 PM, Alexandra Winter wrote:
>
> On 26.09.23 05:00, D. Wythe wrote:
>> You are right. The key point is how to ensure the valid of smc sock during the life time of clc sock, If so, READ_ONCE is good
>> enough. Unfortunately, I found  that there are no such guarantee, so it's still a life-time problem.
> Did you discover a scenario, where clc sock could live longer than smc sock?
> Wouldn't that be a dangerous scenario in itself? I still have some hope that the lifetime of an smc socket is by design longer
> than that of the corresponding tcp socket.


Hi Alexandra,

Yes there is. Considering scenario:

tcp_v4_rcv(skb)

/* req sock */
reqsk = _inet_lookup_skb(skb)

/* listen sock */
sk = reqsk(reqsk)->rsk_listener;
sock_hold(sk);
tcp_check_req(sk)


                                                 smc_release /* release 
smc listen sock */
                                                 __smc_release
smc_close_active()         /*  smc_sk->sk_state = SMC_CLOSED; */
                                                     if 
(smc_sk->sk_state == SMC_CLOSED)
smc_clcsock_release();
sock_release(clcsk);        /* close clcsock */
     sock_put(sk);              /* might not  the final refcnt */

sock_put(smc_sk)    /* might be the final refcnt of smc_sock  */

syn_recv_sock(sk...)
/* might be the final refcnt of tcp listen sock */
sock_put(sk);

Fortunately, this scenario only affects smc_syn_recv_sock and 
smc_hs_congested, as other callbacks already have locks to protect smc,
which can guarantee that the sk_user_data is either NULL (set in 
smc_close_active) or valid under the lock.

> Considering the const, maybe
>> we need to do :
>>
>> 1. hold a refcnt of smc_sock for syn_recv_sock to keep smc sock valid during life time of clc sock
>> 2. put the refcnt of smc_sock in sk_destruct in tcp_sock to release the very smc sock .
>>
>> In that way, we can always make sure the valid of smc sock during the life time of clc sock. Then we can use READ_ONCE rather
>> than lock.  What do you think ?
> I am not sure I fully understand the details what you propose to do. And it is not only syn_recv_sock(), right?
> You need to consider all relations between smc socks and tcp socks; fallback to tcp, initial creation, children of listen sockets, variants of shutdown, ... Preferrably a single simple mechanism covers all situations. Maybe there is such a mechanism already today?
> (I don't think clcsock->sk->sk_user_data or sk_callback_lock provide this general coverage)
> If we really have a gap, a general refcnt'ing on smc sock could be a solution, but needs to be designed carefully.

You are right , we need designed it with care, we will try the 
referenced solutions internally first, and I will also send some RFCs so 
that everyone can track the latest progress
and make it can be all agreed.
> Many thanks to you and the team to help make smc more stable and robust.

Our pleasure 😁.  The stability of smc is important to us too.

Best wishes,
D. Wythe



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-26  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-20 12:08 [PATCH net] net/smc: fix panic smc_tcp_syn_recv_sock() while closing listen socket D. Wythe
2023-09-21  3:19 ` Dust Li
2023-09-21 21:43 ` Simon Horman
2023-09-21 23:59 ` Wenjia Zhang
2023-09-25  8:29   ` D. Wythe
2023-09-25  9:43     ` Alexandra Winter
2023-09-26  3:00       ` D. Wythe
2023-09-26  7:18         ` Alexandra Winter
2023-09-26  9:06           ` D. Wythe [this message]
2023-09-27  8:14             ` Alexandra Winter
2023-10-05 18:14             ` Wenjia Zhang
2023-10-08  8:22               ` D. Wythe
2023-10-11 12:39               ` Wenjia Zhang

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