From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] mm: reduce mmap_lock contention and improve page fault performance
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 20:39:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afUBXnPVnt7Jt5hh@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4x8sNtgv7Y198Gh9NSY+SE2o_JPFAxG9aWE+xXsB9vwGg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, May 02, 2026 at 02:25:37AM +0800, Barry Song wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2026 at 1:58 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > Yes, but that still fails to answer "does this actually happen". How much
> > performance is all this complexity in the page fault handler buying us?
> > If you don't answer this question, I'm just going to go in and rip it
> > all out.
>
> I’m getting quite confused. In patch 4/5, you suggest a more
> restrictive condition using
> if (folio_test_uptodate(folio) && !folio_test_writeback(folio))
> rather than if (folio_test_uptodate(folio)), before we decide to skip
> retrying the page fault [1].
> That seems to suggest we should be more cautious about when we can skip
> retrying the page fault.
>
> However, in the cover letter, you suggest removing all retry code entirely.
> Does this suggestion apply only to file-backed page faults?
I'm making sure that if Andrew decides to override me he at least sees
that there are other problems with this patchset beyond "I don't like
the additional complexity".
And maybe we decide to do the fallback for anon-mm but not file memory.
Or maybe it's just something somebody happens upon when reading the
mailing list (or more likely it's just grist for an AI).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-01 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-30 4:04 [PATCH v2 0/5] mm: reduce mmap_lock contention and improve page fault performance Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-04-30 4:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm/filemap: Retry fault by VMA lock if the lock was released for I/O Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-04-30 4:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm/swapin: Retry swapin " Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-04-30 4:04 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Move folio_lock_or_retry() and drop __folio_lock_or_retry() Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-04-30 4:04 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: Don't retry page fault if folio is uptodate during swap-in Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-04-30 12:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-01 16:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-30 4:04 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm/filemap: Avoid retrying page faults on uptodate folios in filemap faults Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mm: reduce mmap_lock contention and improve page fault performance Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-30 22:49 ` Barry Song
2026-05-01 14:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-01 17:44 ` Barry Song
2026-05-01 17:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-01 18:25 ` Barry Song
2026-05-01 19:39 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2026-05-03 20:39 ` Barry Song
2026-05-03 13:13 ` Jan Kara
2026-05-03 19:55 ` Barry Song
2026-05-04 13:03 ` Jan Kara
2026-05-04 13:35 ` Barry Song
2026-05-01 15:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-01 16:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-01 17:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-01 17:59 ` Barry Song
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