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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, tmricht@linux.ibm.com, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	gor@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com, jameshongleiwang@126.com,
	japo@linux.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	sumanthk@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 01/18] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 18:35:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aff3-2H-zvRKULwl@z2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260503002248.1040791-2-irogers@google.com>

On Sat, May 02, 2026 at 05:22:31PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> Add a helper that lazily computes the e_machine and falls back to
> EM_HOST. Use the perf_env's arch to compute the e_machine if
> available. Use a binary search for some efficiency in this, but handle
> somewhat complex duplicate rules. Switch perf_env__arch to be derived
> the e_machine for consistency. This switches arch from being uname
> derived to matching that of the perf binary (via EM_HOST). Update
> session to use the helper, which may mean using EM_HOST when no
> threads are available. This also updates the perf data file header
> that gets the e_machine/e_flags from the session.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
> ---
[SNIP]
> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/header.c b/tools/perf/util/header.c
> index f30e48eb3fc3..f1ae61392cce 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/util/header.c
> +++ b/tools/perf/util/header.c
> @@ -379,21 +379,28 @@ static int write_osrelease(struct feat_fd *ff,
>  	return do_write_string(ff, uts.release);
>  }
>  
> -static int write_arch(struct feat_fd *ff,
> -		      struct evlist *evlist __maybe_unused)
> +static int write_arch(struct feat_fd *ff, struct evlist *evlist)
>  {
>  	struct utsname uts;
> -	int ret;
> +	const char *arch = NULL;
>  
> -	ret = uname(&uts);
> -	if (ret < 0)
> -		return -1;
> +	if (evlist->session) {
> +		/* Force the computation in the perf_env of the e_machine of the threads. */
> +		perf_session__e_machine(evlist->session, /*e_flags=*/NULL);
> +		arch = perf_env__arch(perf_session__env(evlist->session));
> +	}
>  
> -	return do_write_string(ff, uts.machine);
> +	if (!arch) {
> +		int ret = uname(&uts);
> +
> +		if (ret < 0)
> +			return -1;
> +		arch = uts.machine;
> +	}
> +	return do_write_string(ff, arch);
>  }
>  
> -static int write_e_machine(struct feat_fd *ff,
> -			   struct evlist *evlist __maybe_unused)
> +static int write_e_machine(struct feat_fd *ff, struct evlist *evlist)
>  {
>  	/* e_machine expanded from 16 to 32-bits for alignment. */
>  	uint32_t e_flags;
> @@ -2684,10 +2691,18 @@ static int process_##__feat(struct feat_fd *ff, void *data __maybe_unused) \
>  FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN(hostname, hostname);
>  FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN(osrelease, os_release);
>  FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN(version, version);
> -FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN(arch, arch);
>  FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN(cpudesc, cpu_desc);
>  FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN(cpuid, cpuid);
>  
> +static int process_arch(struct feat_fd *ff, void *data __maybe_unused)
> +{
> +	free(ff->ph->env.arch);
> +	ff->ph->env.arch = do_read_string(ff);
> +	if (!ff->ph->env.arch)
> +		return -ENOMEM;
> +	return 0;
> +}

Isn't it same as FEAT_PROCESS_STR_FUN()?


> +
>  static int process_e_machine(struct feat_fd *ff, void *data __maybe_unused)
>  {
>  	int ret;
> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/session.c b/tools/perf/util/session.c
> index fe0de2a0277f..3e64db2d27c2 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/util/session.c
> +++ b/tools/perf/util/session.c
> @@ -3023,14 +3023,19 @@ uint16_t perf_session__e_machine(struct perf_session *session, uint32_t *e_flags
>  		return EM_HOST;
>  	}
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * Is the env caching an e_machine? If not we want to compute from the
> +	 * more accurate threads.
> +	 */
>  	env = perf_session__env(session);
> -	if (env && env->e_machine != EM_NONE) {
> -		if (e_flags)
> -			*e_flags = env->e_flags;
> -
> -		return env->e_machine;
> -	}
> +	if (env && env->e_machine != EM_NONE)
> +		return perf_env__e_machine(env, e_flags);
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * Compute from threads, note this is more accurate than
> +	 * perf_env__e_machine that falls back on EM_HOST and doesn't consider
> +	 * mixed 32-bit and 64-bit threads.
> +	 */

I'm curious if it's always better.  If EM_HOST is 64-bit and the first
thread in a session happens to be 32-bit.  Then resulting e_machine
would be 32- bit, right?  Is that what we want?

Thanks,
Namhyung


>  	machines__for_each_thread(&session->machines,
>  				  perf_session__e_machine_cb,
>  				  &args);
> @@ -3048,10 +3053,9 @@ uint16_t perf_session__e_machine(struct perf_session *session, uint32_t *e_flags
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Couldn't determine from the perf_env or current set of
> -	 * threads. Default to the host.
> +	 * threads. Potentially use logic that uses the arch string otherwise
> +	 * default to the host. Don't cache in the perf_env in case later
> +	 * threads indicate a better ELF machine type.
>  	 */
> -	if (e_flags)
> -		*e_flags = EF_HOST;
> -
> -	return EM_HOST;
> +	return perf_env__e_machine_nocache(env, e_flags);
>  }
> -- 
> 2.54.0.545.g6539524ca2-goog
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-04  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-19 11:38 [PATCH v2] perf symbol: Remove psw_idle() from list of idle symbols Thomas Richter
2026-02-19 11:55 ` Jan Polensky
2026-02-23 21:46 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-02-23 23:14   ` Arnaldo Melo
2026-03-02 18:43   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-03-02 19:44     ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-04 14:34       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-03-02 23:43 ` [PATCH v1] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-03-24 17:14   ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-25  6:58     ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-25 15:58       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-25 16:18   ` [PATCH v2] " Ian Rogers
2026-03-26  7:20     ` Honglei Wang
2026-03-26 15:11       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 17:45         ` [PATCH v3 0/2] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 17:45           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 17:45           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-03-27  6:56             ` Honglei Wang
2026-03-27  4:50           ` [PATCH v4 0/2] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-03-27  4:50             ` [PATCH v4 1/2] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-04-06  5:05               ` Namhyung Kim
2026-04-06 15:36                 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-27  4:50             ` [PATCH v4 2/2] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-04-06  5:10               ` Namhyung Kim
2026-04-06 16:11                 ` Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09                   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09                     ` [PATCH v5 1/3] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09                     ` [PATCH v5 2/3] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09                     ` [PATCH v5 3/3] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:06                     ` [PATCH v6 0/3] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:06                       ` [PATCH v6 1/3] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:20                         ` [PATCH v7 0/4] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:20                           ` [PATCH v7 1/4] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:20                           ` [PATCH v7 2/4] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:20                           ` [PATCH v7 3/4] perf symbol: Add setters for bitfields sharing a byte to avoid concurrent update issues Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:20                           ` [PATCH v7 4/4] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use a global lock for updates Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                         ` [PATCH v8 00/17] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 01/17] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 02/17] perf tests topology: Switch env->arch use to env->e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 03/17] perf capstone: Determine architecture from e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 04/17] perf print_insn: Use e_machine for fallback IP length check Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 05/17] perf machine: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 06/17] perf sample-raw: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 07/17] perf sort: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 08/17] perf symbol: Avoid use of machine__is Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 09/17] perf arch common: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 10/17] perf header: In print_pmu_caps use perf_env e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 11/17] perf c2c: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 12/17] perf lock-contention: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 13/17] perf env: Refactor perf_env__arch_strerrno Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 14/17] perf env: Remove unused perf_env__raw_arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 15/17] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 16/17] perf symbol: Add setters for bitfields sharing a byte to avoid concurrent update issues Ian Rogers
2026-05-02  6:59                           ` [PATCH v8 17/17] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use a global lock for updates Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                           ` [PATCH v9 00/18] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 01/18] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-04  1:35                               ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 02/18] perf tests topology: Switch env->arch use to env->e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 03/18] perf env, dso, thread: Add _endian variants for e_machine helpers Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 04/18] perf capstone: Determine architecture from e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 05/18] perf print_insn: Use e_machine for fallback IP length check Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 06/18] perf symbol: Avoid use of machine__is Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 07/18] perf machine: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 08/18] perf sample-raw: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 09/18] perf sort: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 10/18] perf arch common: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 11/18] perf header: In print_pmu_caps use perf_env e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 12/18] perf c2c: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 13/18] perf lock-contention: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 14/18] perf env: Refactor perf_env__arch_strerrno Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 15/18] perf env: Remove unused perf_env__raw_arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 16/18] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 17/18] perf symbol: Add setters for bitfields sharing a byte to avoid concurrent update issues Ian Rogers
2026-05-03  0:22                             ` [PATCH v9 18/18] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:06                       ` [PATCH v6 2/3] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:06                       ` [PATCH v6 3/3] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-03-27  6:00           ` [PATCH v2] perf tests task-analyzer: Write test files to tmpdir Ian Rogers
2026-03-31  7:22             ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-31 17:58               ` Ian Rogers
2026-04-01  3:41                 ` Namhyung Kim

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