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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	gor@linux.ibm.com, sumanthk@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com,
	japo@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf callchain: Handle multiple address spaces
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 16:48:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afkwVAXmhApn5z_I@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56678675-cecd-4561-96d9-b1c0335dc841@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, May 04, 2026 at 11:56:15AM +0200, Thomas Richter wrote:
> On 4/30/26 04:57, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 09:14:38AM +0200, Thomas Richter wrote:
> >> On 4/21/26 18:30, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 02:42:41PM +0200, Thomas Richter wrote:
> >>>> perf test 'perf inject to convert DWARF callchains to regular ones'
> >>>> fails on s390. It was introduced with
> >>>> commit 92ea788d2af4 ("perf inject: Add --convert-callchain option")
> >>>>
> >>>> The failure comes the difference in output. Without the inject script to
> >>>> convert DWARF the callchains is:
> >>>>  # ./perf record -F 999 --call-graph dwarf -- perf test -w noploop
> >>>>  # ./perf report -i perf.data --stdio --no-children -q \
> >>>> 					 --percent-limit=1 > /tmp/111
> >>>>  # cat /tmp/111
> >>>>     99.30%  perf-noploop  perf               [.] noploop
> >>>>             |
> >>>>             ---noploop
> >>>>                run_workload (inlined)
> >>>>                cmd_test
> >>>>                run_builtin (inlined)
> >>>>                handle_internal_command
> >>>>                run_argv (inlined)
> >>>>                main
> >>>>                __libc_start_call_main
> >>>>                __libc_start_main_impl (inlined)
> >>>>                _start
> >>>>  #
> >>>>
> >>>> With the inject script step the output is:
> >>>>  # ./perf inject -i perf.data --convert-callchain -o /tmp/perf-inject-1.out
> >>>>  # ./perf report -i /tmp/perf-inject-1.out --stdio --no-children -q \
> >>>> 		--percent-limit=1 > /tmp/222
> >>>>  # cat /tmp/222
> >>>>     99.40%  perf-noploop  perf               [.] noploop
> >>>>             |
> >>>>             ---noploop
> >>>>                run_workload (inlined)
> >>>>                cmd_test
> >>>>                run_builtin (inlined)
> >>>>                handle_internal_command
> >>>>                run_argv (inlined)
> >>>>                main
> >>>>                _start
> >>>>  # diff /tmp/111 /tmp/222
> >>>>  1c1
> >>>>  <     99.30%  perf-noploop  perf               [.] noploop
> >>>>  ---
> >>>>  >     99.40%  perf-noploop  perf               [.] noploop
> >>>>  10,11d9
> >>>>  <                __libc_start_call_main
> >>>>  <                __libc_start_main_impl (inlined)
> >>>>  #
> >>>>
> >>>> The difference are the symbols __libc_start_call_main and
> >>>> __libc_start_main_impl.
> >>>>
> >>>> On x86_64, kernel and user space share a single virtual address space,
> >>>> with the kernel mapped to the upper end of memory. The instruction
> >>>> pointer value alone is sufficient to distinguish between user space
> >>>> and kernel space addresses. This is not true for s390, which uses
> >>>> separate address spaces for user and kernel. The same virtual address
> >>>> can be valid in both address spaces, so the instruction pointer value
> >>>> alone cannot determine whether an address belongs to the kernel or
> >>>> user space. Instead, perf must rely on the cpumode metadata derived
> >>>> from the processor status word (PSW) at sample time.
> >>>>
> >>>> In function perf_event__convert_sample_callchain() the first part
> >>>> copies a kernel callchain and context entries, if any.
> >>>> It then appends additional entries ignoring the address space
> >>>> architecture. Taking that into account, the symbols at addresses
> >>>>
> >>>>    0x3ff970348cb __libc_start_call_main
> >>>>    0x3ff970349c5 __libc_start_main_impl
> >>>>
> >>>> (located after the kernel address space on s390) are now included.
> >>>>
> >>>> Output before:
> >>>>  # ./perf test 83
> >>>>  83: perf inject to convert DWARF callchains to regular ones : FAILED!
> >>>>
> >>>> Output after:
> >>>>  # ./perf test 83
> >>>>  83: perf inject to convert DWARF callchains to regular ones : Ok
> >>>>
> >>>> Question to Namhyung:
> >>>> In function perf_event__convert_sample_callchain() just before the
> >>>> for() loop this patch modifies, the kernel callchain is copied,
> >>>> see this comment and the next 5 lines:
> >>>>    /* copy kernel callchain and context entries */ 
> >>>> Then why is machine__kernel_ip() needed in the for() loop, when
> >>>> the kernel entries have been copied just before the loop?
> >>>
> >>> IIRC I wanted to make sure to have PERF_CONTEXT_* part in the raw
> >>> callchains.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Note: This patch was tested on x86_64 virtual machine and succeeded.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fixes: 92ea788d2af4 ("perf inject: Add --convert-callchain option")
> >>>> Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>
> >>>
> >>> Acked-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Namhyung
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Namhyung,
> >>
> >> is there something which needs to be done on my side to get this patch picked?
> >> It still fails on s390.
> >>
> >> Please adviseon how to proceed.
> > 
> > Arnaldo will take care of 7.2 development cycle.
> > 
> 
> Today we are at v7.1-rc2. Does this mean the fix won't make it into v7.1 at all
> and we have to wait roughly 2 month?

Just out of curiousity, do you plan to use v7.1 for this feature
specifically or just for test failures?  Probably better to use v7.2
series (i.e. perf-tools-next) instead?

Anyway, I can merge this to v7.1 if you really want as it's from v7.0
which may be close enough for urgent care. :)  But it seems there would
be conflicts with Ian's e_machine patchset.

Thanks,
Namhyung


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-04 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-14 12:42 [PATCH] perf callchain: Handle multiple address spaces Thomas Richter
2026-04-21 11:10 ` [PATCH Ping ] " Thomas Richter
2026-04-21 16:30 ` [PATCH] " Namhyung Kim
2026-04-29  7:14   ` Thomas Richter
2026-04-30  2:57     ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-04  9:56       ` Thomas Richter
2026-05-04 23:48         ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2026-05-05  5:50           ` Thomas Richter
2026-05-05 13:04             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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