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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: y2038@lists.linaro.org, Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>,
	pang.xunlei@linaro.org, peterz@infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [Y2038] [PATCH 04/11] posix timers:Introduce the 64bit methods with timespec64 type for k_clock structure
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:13:32 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504211701140.13914@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3231171.5TrYVVBLh4@wuerfel>

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 April 2015 16:14:26 Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > Note the use of a separate __kernel_itimerspec64 for the user interface
> > > here, which I think will be needed to hide the differences between the
> > > normal itimerspec on 64-bit machines, and the new itimerspec on 32-bit
> > > platforms that will be defined differently (using 'long long').
> > 
> > Confused.
> > 
> > timespec64 / itimerspec64 should be the same independent of 64bit and
> > 32bit. So why do we need another variant ?
> 
> There are multiple reasons:
> 
> * On 64-bit systems, timespec64 would always be defined in the same way
>   as struct timespec { __kernel_time_t tv_sec; long tv_nsec; }, with
>   __kernel_time_t being 'long'. On 32-bit, we probably need to make both
>   members 'long long' for the user space side, in order to share the
>   syscall implementation with the kernel side, but we may also want to
>   keep the internal timespec64 using a 'long' for tv_nsec, as we do
>   today. This means that both the binary layout (padding or no padding)
>   and the basic types (long or long long) are different between 32-bit
>   and 64-bit, and between kernel and user space

So you want to avoid a compat syscall for 32bit applications on a
64bit kernel, right?

That burdens 32bit with the extra 'long long' in user space. Not sure
whether user space folks will be happy about it.

> * We should not put 'struct timespec64' into the user space namespace,
>   as applications might already use that identifier. This is similar
>   to the __u32/u32 or __kernel_time_t/time_t tuple of types for interface
>   and in-kernel uses. This is particularly important when embedding a
>   timespec in another data structure.

Fair enough.

> * My plan is to use a temporary hack where I actually define
>   __kernel_timespec64 to look like the 32-bit version of timespec,
>   as an intermediate step when converting all 32-bit architectures over
>   to use the compat_*() syscalls in place of the existing ones, so
>   I can change over the normal syscalls to use __kernel_timespec64
>   without having to change all architectures at once, or having to
>   modify each syscall multiple times.

Makes sense.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-21 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-20  5:57 [PATCH 00/11] Convert the posix_clock_operations and k_clock structure to ready for 2038 Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055729.K3NdEsNn9LBiSAwjNcnigLzXXpr-Qj-sw_QrpCnu7Xo@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 01/11] linux/time64.h:Introduce the 'struct itimerspec64' for 64bit Baolin Wang
2015-04-20  9:49     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2015-04-20 10:55       ` Baolin Wang
2015-04-20 19:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-20 19:59       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-21  8:19       ` Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055730.qhmlyjqTzG_9wGigLE3izeTYPY5hsCieEVUnkdK42uY@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 02/11] timekeeping:Introduce the current_kernel_time64() function with timespec64 type Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055731.501EUxDlYO5du4wJcv_IJVEiet80uxlTbeaha_OyNoE@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 03/11] time/hrtimer:Introduce hrtimer_get_res64() with timespec64 type for getting the timer resolution Baolin Wang
2015-04-20 19:15     ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found] ` <20150420055732.UBy9O1zIbXdYrbzkrwcB3b-afG0DyyampqIYAmoFEbo@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 04/11] posix timers:Introduce the 64bit methods with timespec64 type for k_clock structure Baolin Wang
2015-04-20 20:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-21  8:59       ` [Y2038] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-21 14:14         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-21 14:57           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-21 15:13             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-04-21 15:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-21 20:13                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-22  8:45                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-22 10:11                     ` Richard Cochran
2015-04-22 10:44                     ` David Laight
2015-04-22 11:07                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-22 13:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-22 13:50                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-22 14:54                         ` Richard Cochran
2015-04-22 15:37                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-22 15:14                         ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2015-04-22 15:38                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-20  5:57 ` [PATCH 05/11] time/posix-timers:Convert to the 64bit methods for k_clock callback functions Baolin Wang
2015-04-20 20:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-21  8:36     ` Baolin Wang
2015-04-21  8:45       ` [Y2038] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-21  8:55         ` Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055734.sXidO6DjEg8nxhrxTuNxhnaBvgbNgq-SwKYTZrDsRTk@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 06/11] char/mmtimer:Convert to the 64bit methods for k_clock callback function Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055735.Vt-cPk5TAknwEySmrvtr8I51_WyOtnDgvLOIsfQ3tFY@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 07/11] time/alarmtimer:Convert to the new methods for k_clock structure Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055736.W1isun8aSTqY5eHtcjUAGCkW-CFL31iktZYjHMdjq94@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 08/11] time/posix-clock:Convert to the 64bit methods for k_clock and posix_clock_operations structure Baolin Wang
     [not found] ` <20150420055737.xueVy52Ya9KifQ9nylHD-BpBdmDS3G-JwQWY9LSaL6Y@z>
2015-04-20  5:57   ` [PATCH 09/11] cputime:Introduce the cputime_to_timespec64/timespec64_to_cputime function Baolin Wang
2015-04-20 21:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-20  5:57 ` [PATCH 10/11] time/posix-cpu-timers:Convert to the 64bit methods for k_clock structure Baolin Wang
2015-04-20  5:57 ` [PATCH 11/11] k_clock:Remove the 32bit methods with timespec type Baolin Wang
2015-04-20  8:42   ` Richard Cochran
2015-04-20  9:00     ` Baolin Wang

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