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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] KVM: use RCU to allow dynamic kvm->vcpus array
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:29:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db11c343-d5f7-97cd-47df-ed801bad5947@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170816194037.9460-1-rkrcmar@redhat.com>

On 16.08.2017 21:40, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> The goal is to increase KVM_MAX_VCPUS without worrying about memory
> impact of many small guests.
> 
> This is a second out of three major "dynamic" options:
>  1) size vcpu array at VM creation time
>  2) resize vcpu array when new VCPUs are created
>  3) use a lockless list/tree for VCPUs
> 
> The disadvantage of (1) is its requirement on userspace changes and
> limited flexibility because userspace must provide the maximal count on
> start.  The main advantage is that kvm->vcpus will work like it does
> now.  It has been posted as "[PATCH 0/4] KVM: add KVM_CREATE_VM2 to
> allow dynamic kvm->vcpus array",
> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1377285.html
> 
> The main problem of (2), this series, is that we cannot extend the array
> in place and therefore require some kind of protection when moving it.
> RCU seems best, but it makes the code slower and harder to deal with.
> The main advantage is that we do not need userspace changes.
> 
> The third option wasn't explored yet.  It would solve the ugly
> kvm_for_each_vcpu() of (2), but kvm_get_vcpu() would become linear.
> (We could mitigate it by having list of vcpu arrays and A lockless
>  sequentially growing "tree" would be logarithmic and not that much more
>  complicated to implement.)

That sounds interesting but also too complicated.

> 
> Which option do you think is the best?

I actually think the RCU variant doesn't look bad at all. Execution time
should be ok.

As Alex said, doubling the size every time we run out of space could be
done.

I clearly favor a solution that doesn't require user space changes.

-- 

Thanks,

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-16 19:40 [PATCH RFC 0/2] KVM: use RCU to allow dynamic kvm->vcpus array Radim Krčmář
2017-08-16 19:40 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] KVM: remove unused __KVM_HAVE_ARCH_VM_ALLOC Radim Krčmář
2017-08-21 13:48   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-08-16 19:40 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] KVM: RCU protected dynamic vcpus array Radim Krčmář
2017-08-17  8:07   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-08-17 11:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-08-17 16:50     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-17 16:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17  7:04 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] KVM: use RCU to allow dynamic kvm->vcpus array Alexander Graf
2017-08-17  7:36   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-08-17  9:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17  9:28       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-08-17  9:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17  9:55           ` David Hildenbrand
2017-08-17 10:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17 10:20               ` David Hildenbrand
2017-08-17 10:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-17 10:31                   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-08-17 14:54   ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-17 19:17     ` Alexander Graf
2017-08-18 14:10       ` Radim Krčmář
2017-08-18 14:22         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-17  7:29 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2017-08-17  7:37   ` Cornelia Huck

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