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From: Tomasz Figa <t.figa@samsung.com>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>, Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Sachin Kamat <sachin.kamat@linaro.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ARM: EXYNOS: Consolidate Kconfig entries
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:15:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52FA065B.1070100@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMiFL71dR13CuFV7hbkT=AaWjGA2ejk42W5hyy7wn_mJHQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 11.02.2014 07:30, Olof Johansson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-02-10 10:20 GMT+05:30 Sachin Kamat <sachin.kamat@linaro.org>:
>>>
>>> On 7 February 2014 22:03, Tomasz Figa <t.figa@samsung.com> wrote:
>>>> On 06.02.2014 19:59, Olof Johansson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
>>>>> <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, once again, seeing some numbers would be good. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What numbers do you want? Size comparisons with all SoC options on vs
>>>>>>> only one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, size comparisions with all SoCs (for given family) turned on vs
>>>>>> only one turned on (done on kernel without this patch applied).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also size comparisons for ARCH_EXYNOS4 and ARCH_EXYNOS5 both turned
>>>>>> on vs only ARCH_EXYNOS4 or ARCH_EXYNOS5 turned on (with this patch
>>>>>> applied).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> exynos_defconfig-based build data below.
>>>>>
>>>>>      text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>>>>> 5109986  319952  270196 5700134  56fa26 obj-tmp/vmlinux   # all 4+5 SoCs
>>>>> enabled
>>>>> 5088312  296912  270196 5655420  564b7c obj-tmp/vmlinux  # EXYNOS5
>>>>> off, all EXYNOS4 SoCs enabled
>>>>> 5088032  296896  270196 5655124  564a54 obj-tmp/vmlinux  # Only 4210
>>>>> enabled
>>>>> 5079205  299928  270068 5649201  563331 obj-tmp/vmlinux  # EXYNOS4
>>>>> off, all EXYNOS5 SoCs enabled
>>>>> 5063355  286792  270068 5620215  55c1f7 obj-tmp/vmlinux   # Only 5250
>>>>> enabled
>>>>> 5067815  298152  270068 5636035  55ffc3 obj-tmp/vmlinux    # Only
>>>>> 5250+5420 enabled
>>>>> 5053357  278480  269364 5601201  5577b1 obj-tmp/vmlinux  # Only 5440
>>>>> enabled
>>>>>
>>>>> The main difference of disabling 5440 is that it removed the PCI
>>>>> support, which explains that reduction in size.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I would argue that theere might be some value in disabling whole
>>>>> families (since it saves about 20k of text and the same of data), but
>>>>> that there's less gain per SoC member. 5440 is an oddball in this
>>>>> setup so it might make sense to treat it differently due to the PCI
>>>>> aspect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, the numbers basically represent what I expected. Thanks for checking
>>>> this.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Olof for coming out with these numbers.
>>>
>>>> So I second this patch even more now,
>>>
>>> Thanks Tomasz :)
>>>
>>>> but maybe let's change it a bit
>>>> and introduce third entry for Exynos5440, since it doesn't really belong to
>>>> either of ARCHs. Candidates that come to my mind are ARCH_EXYNOS5440 (seems
>>>> to specific) or ARCH_EXYNOS5_SERVER. Feel free to suggest anything better,
>>>> though.
>>>
>>> Though Exynos5440 belongs to the Exynos5 family, it is different in a
>>> few ways and hence
>>> I preferred to keep it as a separate entry for now. I agree with your
>>> suggestion to have a third
>>> ARCH category but I would prefer to wait for a while until we have one
>>> more candidate for this
>>> category so that we have a bit more data for naming and grouping.
>>>
>> Well, I also, having soc number would be good like 5440 you thought
>> because I can't say upcoming exynos ARMv7 based SoCs are familiar with
>> previous exynos SoCs or not at this moment. And it means sometimes we
>> need to add the numbering and sometime we don't need. It's not fair
>> enough I think. And I have strong objection on Thomasz' suggestion
>> about ARCH_EXYNOS5_SERVER? Please don't guess.
>
> Well, we know that we do not want to see new options for every single
> new SoC that are similar to existing ones. It's just not needed, as
> the size comparisons above shows.
>
> So, I think today, we should have three options:
>
> EXYNOS4
> EXYNOS5
> EXYNOS5440
>
> 5440 can depend on EXYNOS5 today if it makes sense. Only reason to let
> it have its own option is that it's substantially different from the
> others in that it pulls in PCI and causes kernel size to go up.

Well, hardware-wise it's completely different. Even the pin controller 
needs a separate driver (pinctrl-exynos5440.c vs 
pinctrl-exynos.c+pinctrl-samsung.c), so I believe a third option is 
completely justified.

> If
> other SoCs are added that are quire similar to 5440, then the right
> option is probably to group them under an option together with 5440.
> It doesn't matter if it's called server or something else as long as
> they're mostly kept together. And for now that's just theoretical
> anwyay: Let's keep calling it 5440 until there's reason to change it.

Fair enough. That was basically my first proposal, which sounded a bit 
too specific to me, but I guess it can't be helped.

Best regards,
Tomasz

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-11 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-06 11:59 [PATCH 1/1] ARM: EXYNOS: Consolidate Kconfig entries Sachin Kamat
2014-02-06 14:10 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-02-06 15:02   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-02-06 18:25     ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-06 18:43       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-02-06 18:59         ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-07 16:33           ` Tomasz Figa
2014-02-10  4:50             ` Sachin Kamat
2014-02-11  6:10               ` Kukjin Kim
2014-02-11  6:30                 ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-11 11:15                   ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2014-02-11 11:08                 ` Tomasz Figa
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2014-04-02  8:55 Sachin Kamat

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